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Two Possibilities for Getting out of this Mess

September 5th, 2018, Promulgated by b a

Not to say there aren’t more (or better) ways than these, but here are a couple approaches for getting out of this mess…

1) Call on the Secular Government

Thomas Peters again – If the US Bishops Don’t Fear God, They Should Fear the Government

Those accused of these evil deeds, when they do speak, utter incoherence.

These men must not fear hell.

the Roman Curia, its cardinals and pope, will not self-convict. They won’t even self-investigate.

I have come to the difficult conclusion, along with Hugh Hewitt and others, that a government-led investigation into the Catholic hierarchy is probably the only means at our disposal to be an example for the universal church for how to uproot this network of corruption inside our church and yes, to get priests and bishops to begin speaking out and turning each other in, following the trail back to the loggia of Rome. 49 more state attorney generals and the Attorney General using every means at their disposal to discover which bishops and cardinals have endangered children by moving predator priests, have orchestrated cover ups to protect abusive priests and bishops and cardinals and have individually and collectively preyed upon young men and seminarians. Open up the files. Follow the paper trail. Deposition. Subpoena. Jail.

2) Perform the Numbers 5 Approach on all Bishops in Question

And the Lord spoke to Moses, saying:…

The man whose wife shall have gone astray,… but the adultery is secret, and cannot be proved by witnesses, because she was not found in the adultery:

He shall bring her to the priest…

And when the woman shall stand before the Lord, he shall uncover her head, … and he himself shall hold the most bitter waters, whereon he hath heaped curses with execration.

And he shall adjure her, and shall say: If another man hath not slept with thee, and if thou be not defiled by forsaking thy husband’s bed, these most bitter waters, on which I have heaped curses, shall not hurt thee.

But if thou hast gone aside from thy husband, and art defiled, and hast lain with another man:

These curses shall light upon thee: The Lord make thee a curse, and an example for all among his people: may he make thy thigh to rot, and may thy belly swell and burst asunder.

Let the cursed waters enter into thy belly, and may thy womb swell and thy thigh rot. And the woman shall answer, Amen, amen….

And he shall give them her to drink… And when she hath drunk them, if she be defiled, and having despised her husband be guilty of adultery, the malediction shall go through her, and her belly swelling, her thigh shall rot: and the woman shall be a curse, and an example to all the people.

But if she be not defiled, she shall not be hurt, and shall bear children.


8 Responses to “Two Possibilities for Getting out of this Mess”

  1. Ben Anderson says:

    not sure if this is related or coincidence:

  2. Dominick Anthony Zarcone says:

    Excellent timing for Albany’s Bishop!

    As it is, D., Government Agencies will act instead.

    Spectrum News
    4:00 PM
    Casey Bortnick
    “The Catholic Diocese Of Rochester Received and Is Revealing A Subpoena From The State Attorney General’s Office As Part Of It’s Investigation Into Sexual Abuse Of Children. A Statement, The Diocese Says In Part Quote, ‘We have a longstanding policy of cooperation with law enforcement and certainly it will continue in this process. We encourage all victims to report to civil authorities.’ Douglas Mandelaro Roman Catholic Diocese Of Rochester”

    “This comes after a law enforcement source told the Associated Press that the AG’s Office subpoenaed all Roman Catholic Dioceses In New York State….”

  3. militia says:

    Here’s one way to prioritize which dioceses should be investigated first, and with the most resources — start with the ones which have highest per capita contributions to CRS(Catholic Relief Services) and CCHD (Catholic Campaign for Human Development.)

    Many dioceses will have the CCHD collection next week and nobody should give anything to that organization. Just put CRS or CCHD in the Search Bar of Cleansing Fire and see the posts that show why good practicing Catholics should distance themselves from those so-called charities. People! wise up and ‘smell the coffee.’

  4. Ginger says:

    Dangling trust

    The silence may be deafening to some that don’t understand. The largest problem and source of unrest has to do with trust and truth.

    In order to establish and maintain trust there must be truth. The flock is and has been in malaise for quite some time because it hasn’t been hearing or experiencing the truth. All this points to poor shepherding. And now we know that so many of the shepherds have lived double lives. One lives a double life….EVEN…when one thinks they live the truth but look the other way when fellow shepherds are living a lie.

    Very simply…truth and trust go hand in hand.

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