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Let the Sweet Music Begin!

March 14th, 2013, Promulgated by Hopefull

From ChurchMilitant TV NEWS today:



31 Responses to “Let the Sweet Music Begin!”

  1. Dominick Anthony Zarcone says:

    Music to my ears as well includes the following from Pope Francis’ homily today:

    “We can walk all we want, we can build many things, but if we don’t proclaim Jesus Christ, something is wrong. We would become a compassionate NGO and not a Church which is the bride of Christ,”

    “When we walk without the cross, when we build without the cross and when we proclaim Christ without the cross, we are not disciples of the Lord. We are worldly,”

    Sia Lodato Gesu Cristo,
    Sempre Sia Lodato

  2. militia says:

    Here’s another one from LifeSiteNews tonight:

    When the issue of gay “marriage” arose in Argentina, the new Pope argued strongly against it, saying “At stake is the identity and survival of the family: father, mother and children. At stake are the lives of many children who will be discriminated against in advance, and deprived of their human development given by a father and a mother and willed by God. At stake is the total rejection of God’s law engraved in our hearts. Let’s not be naive, we’re not talking about a simple political battle; it is a destructive pretension against the plan of God. We are not talking about a mere bill, but rather a machination of the Father of Lies that seeks to confuse and deceive the children of God.”

  3. Dr. K says:

    “When we proclaim Christ without the cross, we are not disciples of the Lord.”


  4. Scott W. says:

    Thanks to Dominick and militia for those quotes. I put them together in and entry here: The Tyranny of “COEXIST!”: On True Social Justice, Chastity, and a New Pope who is just what the Great Doctor Ordered

  5. annonymouse says:

    Keep the quotes coming – God has blessed us with this man.

    Let us allow ourselves, in humility, to be shepherded!

  6. SALLYANNE says:

    Just a FYI, not that it relates to the above story, but……Pope Francis’ father’s first name was Pietro, which means “rock.” I’m always searching for “coincendences” when it comes to spirituality….

  7. Bruce says:


    I keep hearing various commentators emphasizing his use of the words “Bishop of Rome” when referring to himself and to Benedict. Does this mean that he will take “first among equals” to mean that all bishops are more or less equal, able to dominate their dioceses without oversight of the Vicar of Christ?

    If so, then the DOR is doomed if Matthew Clark II is appointed.

  8. Scott W. says:

    Well the Cuomo family poo-poo’ed him. That’s a good sign:

  9. Dr. K says:

    And there’s also this bad sign from the pedophile protector:

    A nice little attack against Pope Benedict from the overjoyed Mahony.

  10. Scott W. says:

    Meh. Let Mahony brown nose. It will that much sweeter when he is handed his posterior.

  11. Bruce says:

    Gee, isn’t it nice that a Protestant likes the pope so much…

  12. Sassy says:

    Methinks Cardinal Mahoney is doing more of the work of Satan. Sadly, I don’t think he even deserves to be called “Cardinal.”

  13. Sassy says:

    And the more the Cuomo family dislikes the choice of pope, the better I like it. He calls himself Catholic? Hardly! Another Protestant trying to pass himself off as Catholic.

  14. Rich Leonardi says:

    Did Cardinal Mahony really write that!?

    What an a-hole. Seriously.

  15. Dr. K says:

    See for yourself:

    And yes, he is an a-hole.

  16. Dr. K says:

    He posted a new tweet minutes ago: “SIMPLE is IN, extravagant is out!!”

    Card. Mahony is the hypocrite of all hypocrites. The Taj Mahony cathedral in LA is the antithesis of simplicity.

  17. Richard Thomas says:

    Here’s the “New Penticost”.

    Put on more confrences to teach heresy to religious teachers to then have them go out and poison more souls.

    Allow homosexual priests to do their dastardly actions and then protect them.

    Make sure you do everything you can to crush orthodoxy, even if it involves hurting others like Mother Angelica.

    Encourage dissent and promote it in you homilies and Catholic Newspaper.

  18. Sassy says:

    I have to say that I am glad that Pope Francis will be picking the new bishop of Rochester. I think the future is bright for your diocese. Now if only there was some way to shut down Fortunate Families!

  19. militia says:

    After reading Dr. K’s post, I had to pull my “Mother Angelica” book by Raymond Arroyo off the shelf and re-read the Mahony antics again. It is a nicely indexed book and now, in light of the Cardinal’s complicity in covering up for a child abuser, and in light of the rage he continues to show against Abp. Gomez (hero!) his mean-spirit comes through loud and clear. He will just keep on tweeting and twiting and tweaking as a person without any self-control, who’s personal image may be his new religion. Clearly he had no business showing his face at the Conclave, and now he seems almost irrational in his posts. Maybe Pope Francis needs to send him off to a monastery for rehab; something is surely wrong there! Yet, for all the injustice done to Mother Angelica, there is also a great irony and justice in seeing him squirm. In a different religion, I’d say “Karma!”

  20. annonymouse says:

    I was joyful when Benedict named +Gomez as co-adjutor Archbishop of Los Angeles, and have never been a great fan of Cardinal Mahoney. He’s been put out to pasture. And it does seem that his tweets are, I think the word is, snarky.

    But I will say this – the Pope is a visible symbol of unity in the Church – around whom we can all unite in humble obedience and prayerful support. It seems unbecoming and unnecessarily divisive to me for folks here to call attention to the Cardinal’s snark and then attack him. So why don’t we devote ourselves to uniting around Francis and turning our attention to the mission of the Church – which is to preach the Gospel of Jesus Christ to every creature!

  21. Dr. K says:

    Clearly he had no business showing his face at the Conclave

    You should check out his blog. He pretty much reveals who he voted for at the conclave.

    So much for that vow of secrecy.

  22. Scott W. says:

    dixitque ei Iesus sine ut mortui sepeliant mortuos suos tu autem vade adnuntia regnum Dei

    Luke 6:90

    Amended by poster of thread: Scott meant Luke 9:60 as confirmed in subsequent posts.

  23. annonymouse says:

    Scott – I think you mean Luke 9:60.

    “Let the dead bury the dead” – I like the implication of that verse in the context of this thread, and ecclesiastically speaking, (other than having a vote at a conclave) Cardinal Mahoney is “dead.” Let us get on with living out our call to preach Christ to our world!

  24. Scott W. says:

    Yes Luke 9:60! The link goes to the right place, but I typed the numbers backwards. Thanks for the catch.

  25. Diane Harris says:

    I tried reading the following aloud to a friend of mine, and was laughing so hard the tears were rolling down my face. The Curia is in for a great awakening….

    Jesuit doorman surprised by Pope’s phone call

    ROME, ITALY, March 15 (CNA/EWTN News) He thought it was a joke. The young doorman at the Jesuit motherhouse in Rome never expected to receive a phone call from Pope Francis.

    The Holy Father had to patiently and kindly convince the doorman who he was in order to speak with the Father General of the Jesuits to thank him for a letter the Pontiff received upon his election.

    According to Father Claudio Barriga, SJ, who recounted the incident in an email to fellow Jesuits around the world, the unexpected phone call from Pope came around 10:15 a.m. Rome time on Thursday.

    “The doorman answered the phone. They said it was call from St. Martha’s Residence and he heard a soft and serene voice: ‘Buon Giorno, sono il Papa Francesco, vorrei parlare con il Padre Generale (Good morning, it’s Pope Francis. I’d like to speak with the Father General).’”

    “The doorman almost answered: ‘Yeah, and I’m Napoleon,’ but he resisted. Instead he replied curtly, ‘May I ask who’s calling?’ The Pope realized the young Italian man didn’t believe it was him, so he kindly repeated, ‘Seriously, it’s Pope Francis. What’s your name?’”

    “Ever since the Pope’s election, our phone has been ringing every two minutes and a lot of people are calling, including a few lunatics,” Father Barriga said.

    “Once the doorman realized his mistake he answered with a hesitant and nervous voice: ‘My name is Andrew.’”

    “How are you, Andrew?” asked the Pope.

    “Fine, pardon me, just a little bit confused.”

    The Holy Father responded, “Don’t worry, could you please connect me with the Father General? I would like to thank him for the beautiful letter he sent me.”

    “Pardon me, Your Holiness, I’ll connect you right now,” said the doorman.

    “No problem. I’ll wait as long as necessary,” said Pope Francis.

    The doorman handed the phone to the Father General’s private secretary, Brother Alfonso.

    “Hello?” Brother Alfonso said.

    “With whom am I speaking?” the Pope asked.

    “It’s Alfonso, the Father General’s personal secretary,” he replied.

    “It’s the Pope, I would like to speak with the Father General to thank him for the beautiful letter he sent me,” the Holy Father said.

    “Sure, just a moment,” Brother Alfonso replied in amazement.

    As he made his way to the office of Father Adolfo Nicolas, the Jesuit Father General, he continued his conversation.

    “Holy Father, congratulations on your election! We are all happy here for your election, we are praying a lot for you,” Brother Alfonso told him.

    “Praying that I keep going or that I turn back?” the Pope joked.

    “That you keep going, of course,” he replied, as the Holy Father laughed.

    “Stunned and bewildered, Brother Alfonso didn’t even bother to knock and simply entered the office of the Father General, who looked at him with surprise. He gave him the phone, looked at him and said: The Pope,” Father Barriga recounted.

    “We don’t know the details about what happened next, but the Pope cordially thanked the Father General for his letter. The Father General said he would like to see him to greet him. The Pope said he would instruct his secretary so that they could meet as soon as possible and that somebody from the Vatican would be in touch,” Father Barriga said in his message.

  26. christian says:

    I was very touched when I heard that Pope Francis chose to have his Installation and First Mass at St. Peter’s Basilica on the Feast of St. Joseph, because St. Joseph is Patron of the Universal Church.

    Do you remember when St. Joseph was mentioned more? Even Children’s Aspirin bore his name as a message of trust, purity, and guardian/parental protection. There seemed to be more mention and honor given to St. Joseph when I was young.

    Joseph was an integral part of Jesus’ life and mission. Joseph was a pure, humble, righteous man of faith who was the continual protector for the Holy Family as seen in various accounts of the Bible. The angel of the Lord gave information, warning, and instruction to Joseph in various life events.
    St. Joseph also helped to raise Jesus and taught him the trade of carpentry.

    Statues/Artwork/Shrines of St. Joseph have been disappearing from our churches.It seems that St. Joseph has been forgotten.

    In many countries, The Feast of St. Joseph is a holy day of obligation – But not in the U.S. I think the Feast of St. Joseph should be a holy day of obligation in the U.S. St. Joseph is an excellent role model for single and married men, and for fathers and husbands. Let’s hope Pope Francis’ example will have an effect on the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops.

  27. Dominick Anthony Zarcone says:

    Christian, Thank you for writing about the importance of Saint Joseph. In all honesty,I have never been devoted to him….Perhaps that will change.

    I too was moved by Pope Francis’ homily about being a custodian, a protector, like Saint Joseph.

    Christian, you might be pleased to know that I accepted an invitation to attend the Saint Joseph Table at Annunciation Church. It was good to be with our brothers and sisters from Saint Andrew Catholic Church. It was good to reflect on Saint Joseph.

    On another note: John Nenry Newmsn in his 1847 novel LOSS and GAIN

    ” Individuals may display a touching gentleness,
    or a conscientiousness which demands our
    reverence; still, till they have faith, they have not
    the foundation, and their superstructure will fall.
    They will not be blessed, they will effect nothing
    in religious matters, till they begin by an unreserved
    act of faith in the Word of God…; till they go out of
    themselves; til they cease to make something within
    them their standard; til they oblige their will to perfect
    what reason leaves sufficient, indeed but incomplete….”

    Pope Francis knows this!
    May he lead all of us to an authentic, deepened conversion to Jesus Christ;
    beginning with Church leaders.

    Come, Holy Spirit.

  28. Dominick Anthony Zarcone says:

    When folks comment on Pope Francis, it is interesting to discern whether they are projecting onto the new pontiff what they emphasize; what they believe and hold dear.

    I know that I am just as guilty of that as anyone. What I want to do, really want to do, is trust that this Vicar of Christ is being led by the Holy Spirit to make the Son of God and his saving Word more and more present. So, I am going to trust the Lord, watch, listen and follow Pope Francis to the best of my ability.

    That being said, here is “Life With Pope Francis
    Those who want the Gospel to shape the world will be supported by the new pontiff”
    By George Weigel

  29. snowshoes says:

    Thank you, Hopefull et al,

    As we approach Holy Week, permit me to share a bit of St. John Vianney’s sermon on Purgatory. He certainly puts the immutable teaching of Purgatory in clear terms for all of us to meditate upon.

    We must remember that the good Cure knew the sins of those souls sitting in the pews before him, and he also knew many of the souls in Purgatory who came to him for prayers and intercessions. The pains of Purgatory are the same as the pains of Hell…

    “How many years of suffering shall we have to expect in the next life? But how, when the holy Fathers tell us that the torments they suffer in this place seem to equal the sufferings which our Lord Jesus Christ endured during His sorrowful Passion, shall I paint for you a heart-rending picture of the sufferings which these poor souls endure? However, it is certain that if the slightest torment that our Lord suffered had been shared by all mankind, they would all be dead through the violence of such suffering. The fire of Purgatory is the same as the fire of Hell; the difference between them is that the fire of Purgatory is not everlasting. Oh! Should God in His great mercy permit one of these poor souls, who bum in these flames, to appear here in my place, all surrounded by the fires which consume him, and should he give you himself a recital of the sufferings he is enduring, this church, my dear brethren, would reverberate with his cries and his sobs, and perhaps that might finally soften your hearts. Oh! How we suffer! they cry to us.

    Oh! You, our brethren, deliver us from these torments! You can do it! Ah, if you only experienced the sorrow of being separated from God! … Cruel separation! To burn in the fire kindled by the justice of God! … To suffer sorrows incomprehensible to mortal man! . . . To be devoured by regret, knowing that we could so easily have avoided such sorrows! … Oh! My children, cry the fathers and the mothers, can you thus so readily abandon us, we who loved you so much? Can you then sleep in comfort and leave us stretched upon a bed of fire. Will you have the courage to give yourselves up to pleasure and joy while we are here suffering and weeping night and day? You have our wealth, our homes, you are enjoying the fruit of our labors, and you abandon us here in this place of torments, where we are suffering such frightful evils for so many years! … And not a single almsgiving, not a single Mass which would help to deliver us! … You can relieve our sufferings, you can open our prison, and you abandon us. Oh! How cruel these sufferings are! …”

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