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Remember Where Obama is Coming From

October 9th, 2012, Promulgated by Dr. K

With the election quickly approaching, and a bus full of local nuns doing their best to get President Obama reelected, I think it’s important we recall the hatred and racism proclaimed from the pulpit of Mr. Jeremiah Wright. The Rev. Wright was Obama’s pastor for more than 20 years.

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18 Responses to “Remember Where Obama is Coming From”

  1. annonymouse says:

    I think the local nuns are more concerned with getting Louise Slaughter re-elected.

    Despite the momentum for Romney, I doubt very much that NYS will go against Obama.

    But supporting the re-election of Louise Slaughter, with her anti-life record, is just as shameful.

  2. brother of penance says:

    This link gives viewers another Minister’s prospective on the Democrat Party.

    Enjoy, but fasten your seat belt.

  3. Richard Thomas says:

    If only our priests and bishops were as assertive. Now that would be a huge breath of fresh air.

  4. Susan of Corning says:

    Oh, this brings back memories of 2008. Teflon Obama said he missed those sermons over the course of 20 years. Amazing!

  5. Ben Anderson says:

    anyone interested in crowdsourcing a spreadsheet of local candidates?

  6. SALLYANNE says:

    Scary stuff! Could Obama be the Anti-Christ?

  7. christian says:

    For the record – Obama left Jeremiah Wright’s Church after those remarks of hatred and racism.
    Neither the Democrats or Republicans stand for what I believe.

    The Democrats advocate for the poor and marginalized, the working class and the elderly. I am an advocate for the poor, the marginalized, the working class, the very young, and the elderly. Yet the Democrat have a Pro-Choice Stand and back stem cell research from the stem cells from unborn children. There was question and awkwardness at the Democratic Convention over using the name of God. I AM FOR INVOKING THE NAME OF GOD!

    The Republicans have a Pro-Life Stand and do not back stem cell research from the stem cells from unborn children. I am Pro-Life and do not back stem cell research from the stem cells of unborn children. The Republicans invoke the name of God. I invoke the name of God! Yet, the Republicans do not advocate for the poor, the marginalized, the working class, the very young, or the very old. Yet, for all the talk the Republicans do of being Pro-Life, why haven’t they done anything to reverse the Roe vs. Wade decision and to outlaw abortion? The last President to do anything to decrease the amount of abortions done was President Bill Clinton who outlawed late-term abortions done at 6 months and beyond.President Bill Clinton also did wonders for the economy. (Yet, anyone who knows me knows how opposed I was to Pres. Bill Clinton’s immoral behavior in the White House and the decision to leave him in the White House after his impeachment proceedings).

    I was a member of the Right to Life Part until it folded. I am an advocate for Right to Life and Respect Life!

    I wish there was a Party for Jesus Christ! I would be a proud member of that Party!

  8. annonymouse says:

    Christian –

    You call the Democrats’ position regarding the poor and marginalized as advocacy. One might also say that the Democrats have a vested interest in fostering government dependency. The Democrats advocate government solutions to every problem, and ever-growing government at that. Do not confuse the Republicans’ belief in smaller government to be abandonment of the poor and marginalized. Republicans believe that the best solution to poverty is to create the conditions whereby the poor are able to rise out of poverty and become independent of government.

    With respect to reversing Roe v. Wade, that can be done in one of two ways – either by constitutional amendment which requires a 2/3 majority of congress (likely never to happen) and 3/4 of the state legislatures (slightly more possible), or by the Supreme Court overturning it. If Romney is elected, he may well be able to tip the balance of the SCOTUS and overturn Roe, sending abortion back to the state legislatures (denying that a federal “right” to abortion exists).

    In that 1.3 million or so unborn babies are still being slaughtered every year, oughtn’t you do what you can to elect politicians whose goal it is to stop that, and certainly those who believe we oughtn’t be publicly FUNDING it??!?

  9. true faith says:

    annonymouse, I’ve read your comments and I must respectfully disagree with you. The majority of right wing religious people who oppose abortion have never worked with at risk teens or teenaged single mothers through a secular or Christian program. These same people have never given financially on a regular basis to homes for single ,teen mothers and pro-life programs. Few have lost their jobs over a pro-life stance but yet they voice their opinion from afar.I have given of my time and my finances for a Christian home for single. team mothers.I lost my job at a local hospital in 1995 because I refused to be involved in any way with abortions in the O.R. They were doing late term and partial birth abortions.This is how I learned that President Clinton signed in effect- the bill outlawing late term and partial birth abortions.He was able to fund many programs helping middle and low income households,poor children and disabled children yet he still had a budget with a surplus.
    2/3 of medicaid recipients are elderly people in nursing homes and disabled children.People for the first time are getting health coverage who couldn’t before due to a preexisting condition.My 58 year old friend has health coverage for the first time in her life because its affordable.There are thousands of new private sector jobs that people need education and training for.Funding is needed to train these people for the jobs.Mitch Romney sent many jobs overseas in his “other life” as a businessman, putting many employees out of work. I’ve watched both conventions.The Republicans were very explicit in their criticism of Barack Obama’s presidency and stated that they would cut spending.cut taxes, etc. without laying out any specifics or plans.Mitch Romney stated that they are against abortion and endorse family values but he is not taking a stance on abortion and has absolutely no agenda Its lip service only to court the religious right.What was most upsetting was that they brought an Obama impersonator on to make a comedy routine in which he made fun of himself.This was out of line and shows a disrespect for the Office of the Presidency by a major party of a Republic.
    At least at the Democratic Convention , it was made decisive what they have done and will do with specifics. There hasn’t been public funding of abortions and there won’t be in the future.The greatest deterrent to unwanted teen pregnancy and young adult single pregnancy is a healthy self esteem and hope for the future. Its been proven in many areas when adults invest time with at risk teens and show them that they have value there is a reduction in teen pregnancy. When teen aged girls are in sports and other activities that are publicly funded, teen aged pregnancy has been reduced.

  10. Ben Anderson says:

    The majority of right wing religious people who oppose abortion have never worked with at risk teens or teenaged single mothers through a secular or Christian program.

    Do you have any information regarding organizations that such people might contact to become involved?

  11. true faith says:

    Sorry about not responding sooner, I’ve been studying for Pediatric Advanced Life Support Course.There are are many contact numbers and email addresses for people to contact to volunteer to work with at risk teens, mentoring youth and working with pregnant teens and unwed mothers. Here are a few contacts: Americorps, includes VISTA,228 East Main Street . room 4081 , Rochester, New York 14604 phone : 585-262-1778 They are an umbrella agency that screens potential volunteers and places them according to preference, openings, and skills with one of the many organizations they represent,i.e. Cameron Community Ministries.Center For Youth,Liberty Partnership Programs.– There is Mercy Residential Services run by the Sisters of Mercy- it includes The Melita House,198 Oriole Street,Rochester , New York 14613- phone number 585-254-2175—There is Women Helping Girls which is a mentoring program for women to help girls and they can be contacted at .—– and there is a V.O.A. Action Team Initiatives which adults work with teens in volunteer projects together- and they can be reached at volunters at I’ve been involved with Melita House in the distant past. I was very involved in Americorps and Vista up to a few years ago when I had to be on call a few times a week( when not working in the emergency room) as a New York State Sexual Assault Nurse Examiner for evidence and care of pediatric and adult sexual assault victims.I still volunteer with the American Red Cross,I’m on Monroe County Coalition for Crime Victims Rights and have been involved in doing Christian Medical Missions and Disaster Relief Missions in other countries.We all have busy lives. I work full time and I’m able to volunteer.The secret is that I don’t watch T.V. except for the conventions and a rare documentary.It is amazing the wealth of volunteer experiences and other fulfilling opportunities that one can enjoy when not in front of the t.v. for hours.I believe that as Christians that we are the light of the world and a city on a hill.We are all called to ministers of the gospel of grace and ambassadors for Christ in our daily lives.

  12. christian says:

    Anonymouse ?
    Regarding your question – Don’t you think you should vote for politicians whose goal it is to stop abortions?(I have voted for those who proclaimed moral, Christian values and an anti-abortion stand in the past. When casting a vote, I consider the political party affiliation, and I consider the candidate).

    I seriously doubt that Mitt Romney will do anything to outlaw abortion during his presidency as he has stated publically, although he is against abortion, he is not including the abortion issue in his platform for election. He stated he was confining his platform to the economy.

    Political figures from the Democratic or Republican Party who have run for the office of the Presidency since 1973 – when the Supreme Court voted on Roe vs. Wade and made abortion legal – have not made outlawing abortions the primary focus of their campaign and have often left the issue out of the picture entirely.
    When Barack Obama, was running for President in 2008, he stated that he was personally against abortion but did not include the abortion issue in his platform for election. He confined his platform to economics. How is Mitt Romney any different from Barack Obama in that sense? Although each one’s political party has a formal stand on abortion, the candidates do not want to include that stand for their election platform.

    I AM FOR INVOKING THE NAME OF GOD! I had a real problem with convention chairman Antonio Villaraigosa having to take a vote at the Democratic National Convention for permission to put God back into the platform. He had difficulty receiving the decisive majority consensus. But eventually God was put back into the platform. President Obama had personally requested that God be put back into the platform and questioned why they had changed it.
    No one should ever have to seek approval for using the name of God. The Republicans picked up on that awkward event and then Mitt Romney began inserting the name of God throughout his speeches in frequent, reoccurring manner which seemed overdone and gratuitous. It’s not enough for a party or candidate to use the name of God, but they need to have God in their heart, and reflect God in their actions.

    The Republican National Convention was an absolute outrage! Instead of sticking to facts and speaking on relevant issues, it turned into a sideshow with actor Clint Eastwood’s strange and vulgar presentation of “the empty chair,” and Barack Obama impersonator Reggie Brown’s disrespectful, comedic portrayal of President Barack Obama. The Republican Party boasts of its moral character and Christian values – but how was that demonstrated by these two routines?

    That comedic routine of Barack Obama done by Reggie Brown captured the exact mannerisms, voice inflexion, and style of speaking, by a “dead ringer,” along with familiar catch phrases and habits. That routine might be deemed appropriate for Saturday Night Live if a comedic routine was also done of Mitt Romney by a “dead ringer” Mitt Romney impersonator who used his exact mannerisms, voice inflexion, and style of speaking, as well as using sensitive material pertaining to his background, employing stereotypes, to deliver a satirical, yet offensive message. – But in the context of the Republican National Convention, the hired comedic routine by Reggie Brown was very inappropriate, disrespectful, demeaning, and offensive. Most notable was the large content of sensitive material of a racial nature. The psychological warfare of that routine was intended to deliver a poignant blow to opponent Barack Obama, to render him “off balance.”

    If I was there among the laughing, applauding, cheering, photo-taking audience being televised and filmed by TV crews during those routines, especially the Reggie Brown routine, – as a Christian, I would be compelled to take off rather than be seen associating with that activity and deemed as showing any type of support or approval for that uncharitable and immoral mockery. GEORGE BUSH JR. AND JOHN MCCAIN DID NOT RESORT TO THESE TACTICS. These fine men demonstrated respect and decency for their opponents, acknowledging them as fellow Americans who just had a different strategy in how to tackle the economy and other issues of our country. They conducted themselves as moral, ethical, respectful, charitable Christians and gentlemen. Other presidential contenders, at least in my adult lifetime, never resorted to the outlandish, underhanded tactics of Mitt Romney, Paul Ryan, and the Republican Party of 2012. It was a far cry from “A Thousand Points of Light.” The antics of the Republic National Convention 2012 and the tactics of Mitt Romney’s Presidential Debates have brought new meaning to the term “Bully Pulpit.”

    I had predicted that Mitt Romney would win the Republican nomination for candidacy as I thought he was the most appropriate of all the candidates. I thought well of him until his televised speaking engagements of late summer to early fall 2012. I was somewhat concerned over his faux pas during his travels outside the U.S. in the summer. But after viewing the Republican National Convention and hearing Mitt Romney speak at the first Presidential debate, I found him to be cocky, arrogant, and aggressive as well as disrespectful. He continually ran over time and kept ignoring instructions from the arbitrator, while continuing to butt in on his opponent, President Obama, not allowing him to finish his sentence. After watching the second Presidential debate on Tuesday, October 16th, 2012, I noted Mitt Romney did not change his approach and style, forcing his opponent to be more aggressive to get a word in. At one point, Mitt Romney was asked to go and sit down by the arbitrator when he hadn’t let up. There is a difference between being assertive and aggressive. I WOULD EXPECT A CHRISTIAN TO BE STRONG AND ASSERTIVE IN STANDING THEIR GROUND, YET RESPECTFUL. Currently, Mitt Romney has been coming across as a high-powered, competitive, cut-throat businessman desperate to make a sale for the presidency of the United States. I have never seen any Presidential contender act like Mitt Romney in a Presidential Debate. And I have never seen a Presidential Debate like the one I saw on Tuesday night.

    Mitt Romney has been seen waffling, flip-flopping, or changing his stand on major issues throughout his campaign. He has not given specifics in how he plans to fix our economy, and what basic information he does give, does not add up. I do think Mitt Romney’s approach will work in fixing our economy. As Governor of Massachusetts, his approach to fixing the economy through small government did not work and pretty much bankrupt Massachusetts, and the job growth fell to 47 out 50.

    Moreover, in addition to not wanting to take a stand on abortion, Mitt Romney did not want to make a stand on artificial contraceptives on Tuesday night. In regard to the problems Mitt Romney experienced with foreign diplomacy over the summer, and his recently discovered aggressive, cocky, arrogant, disrespectful attitude and manner, I am afraid that Mitt Romney would launch us into World War III if he became President.

    Paul Ryan, a Catholic, spoke about getting rid of the Medicare System for his acceptance speech as Mitt Romney’s running mate, as he thought too much money was being spent on Medicare. He wanted to use a voucher system where every older American is given the same amount of money -$6,400 per year. – Older Americans, while they were working, paid into the Medicare System from their paycheck contributions. Older Americans now pay a monthly premium out of their Social Security check toward Medicare. Why is Paul Ryan targeting older Americans and making Medicare expenditure his primary concern?
    Needless to say, the Romney/Ryan team will not get my vote.

  13. christian says:

    True Faith- Thank you for all that information. I think it is important to be there for those who facing a dilemma in regard to pregnancy and also making other moral life decisions. My maternal grandmother allowed her house to be a safe hospitable place for unwed mothers to visit when a female relative took in unmarried, pregnant women. This was a time when unmarried pregnant women bore a huge stigma. My maternal grandmother was welcoming to all, regardless of religious affiliation or ethnic background. I found this out from my mother when I grew to adult age. It had greater meaning to the family tradition (of Irish origin) of putting candles in the window at Christmastime – a sign that the Christ Child was welcome. Mary and Joseph were welcome. All were welcome in the name of Christ.

  14. Hopefull says:

    Christian said about Mitt Romney: “He stated he was confining his platform to the economy.” That isn’t true. The Republican Platform (voted and accepted at the Republican National Convention) clearly has positions on a variety of subjects, from same-sex “marriage”, to the HHS mandate, energy, voter ID, immigration etc. On the abortion subject, refer to the 2012 Republican platfrom p. 13-14:

    “Faithful to the ‘self-evident’ truths enshrined in the Declaration of Independence, we assert the sanctity of human life and affirm that the unborn child has a fundamental individual right to life which cannot be infringed. We support a human life amendment to the Constitution and endorse legislation to make clear that the Fourteenth Amendment’s protections apply to unborn children.”

    The Democratic 2012 National Platfrom, p. 52 states: “The Democratic Party strongly and unequivocally supports Roe v. Wade and a woman’s right to make decisions regarding her pregnancy, including a safe and legal abortion, regardless of ability to pay. We oppose any and all efforts to weaken or undermine that right.”

    I don’t understand your assertion that Romney’s confining his platform to the economy.

  15. christian says:

    I am opposed to abortion. I have always been opposed to abortion.

    Of interest, I have posted some links where: Romney has stated that he does not forsee any legislation outlawing abortion as being part of his agenda, and where Romney has been heard and seen being advocating for a woman’s right to chose and a strong supporter for Pro-choice.

    The Republican Party should have endorsed a stronger supporter for the Pro-Life Movement!

  16. christian says:

    We not only have to work at illegalizing abortion, but to work at methods to prevent unwed and teenage pregnancies, and when a woman of any age finds herself pregnant, support her in the decision to bear her baby and give that baby birth.
    First, we have to begin in our churches. As a healthcare professional, I have encountered various practicing Catholic colleagues who have advocated abortion over unwanted pregnancies and unwed and underage pregnancies. I have had heated debates over the issue and it was obvious that I had not persuaded them to my way and they hadn’t persuaded me to their way.
    I have seen more support and compassion shown to a young unmarried woman with a prominscious lifestyle who had an abortion than a young unmarried woman who had one sexual relationship with someone she loved and trusted that soured, who chose to bore that child. That practicing Catholic healthcare professional, like others I have encountered with the same philosophy, think a woman, and a couple, even a married couple, do not have the right to give birth to children unless they have built up adequate financial security. They have been disgusted with unwed mothers, teenage unwed mothers and fathers, and married couples who are not financial secure which I have heard crudely stated “don’t have a pot to piss in.” While one should show compassion to a woman who has an abortion as well as the woman who choses to bear life, there shouldn’t be a lack of support and compassion for the one enduring the trials of pregnancy, and the pains of childbirth.
    What these Pro-choice practicing Catholic healthcare professionals (and others) do not grasp is that every woman who has become pregnant is a mother. They will always be a mother. They will either be a mother of a dead child or a live child. They do not acknowledge the guilt and grief that one of these woman having an abortion will face, if not in the present – the future. Especially if one of these women gets married (or is unmarried) and has another pregnancy and allows that child to live. I know of such a case from church years ago, from a young woman who spoke to me and she was battling with depression. It’s difficult for a woman to lose a child in childbirth and beyond, but it is moreso, if that woman knows that she did not do everything within her power to give that child life.
    Women do have miscarriages. Miscarriage is the layman’s term for what is known medically as “spontaneous abortion.” I found out from experience that the ones most opposed to Catholics are Catholics that have been “burned.” When i was young and single, I was introduced to a prospective person of the opposite sex to date. This person was very moral and polite, but as soon as they found out I was Catholic, they told me they did ot want to waste my time and go further as their family was very opposed to the Catholic Church and anything Catholic. I was told their mother who was married, was pregnant with a child they very much wanted. Apparently something went wrong and she was rushed to the hospital. Their mother lost the baby. In the midst of their moher’s anguish, her parish priest came to her bedside, angry, condemning her for having an abortion. More priests and nuns continued file in to her bedside to condemn her for having an abortion. – All I could think was that they rushed to conclusion or judgment -OR- They heard hospital staff mention (or they saw) “Spontaneous Abortion” or “She aborted.” There were some priests and nuns back then (even nowdays) who thought they knew everything about everything – and all it would have taken is one misguided priest to spread the message. (I could see where this woman who have been tramatized by the Catholic Church. I felt very bad that this family was alienated from the Catholic Church. All I could do is offer my understanding, support, and sympathy).

  17. Ben Anderson says:

    The Republican Party should have endorsed a stronger supporter for the Pro-Life Movement!

    I agree with you, but there electing Romney over Obama does have significant consequences – the most obvious is Supreme Court nominees. There are a handful of others – Mexico City policy and I’m sure some googling will turn up others. Legislation isn’t the only thing a President can do to help save babies… in fact the President isn’t really supposed to legislate at all (I understand in practice they do propose legislation).

  18. Dominick Anthony Zarcone says:

    Read this article by Rick Santorum which can be accessed at his Patriot Voices website:

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