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Still Disobeying Church Law

February 1st, 2010, Promulgated by Dr. K

It appears Nancy DeRycke has taken it upon herself to assign a new title to both her and the parish priest. Here is a bulletin clip from January 17th. In this, Nancy DeRycke is referred to as a “Pastoral Administrator”, and the priest is a “Sacramental Minister” –

Now compare the above clipping with what she calls herself now in the piece below-

In the two most recent bulletins, Mrs. DeRycke must have had an identity change, or promotion, because she now refers to herself as (get this) “Pastoral Leader”! The priest is now called an “Assisting Priest.” Now wait a minute here, wasn’t such a title explicitly condemned by the Vatican? Why yes, indeed it was!

From Ecclesiae de Mysterio:

“Temporary deputation for liturgical purposes ? mentioned in Canon 230, ? 2 ? does not confer any special or permanent title on the non-ordained faithful.(57)

It is unlawful for the non-ordained faithful to assume titles such as “pastor”, “chaplain”, “coordinator”, ” moderator” or other such similar titles which can confuse their role and that of the Pastor, who is always a Bishop or Priest.(58)”

And what does that #58 footnote say…?

“(58) Such examples should include all those linguistic expressions: which in languages of the various countries, are similar or equal and indicate a directive role of leadership or such vicarious activity.”

Hmm… Lay people are not permitted in any way to take on a title that indicates a “directive role of leadership”. But doesn’t the Diocese of Rochester want us to believe that laypeople can run parishes according to provisions that allegedly exist in Canon 517.2 ,and be called Pastoral Administrators, or in good ol’ Nancy’s case, Pastoral Leader?

Does anyone over at Buffalo Road bother to read the documents of the Catholic Church? They should try that, because we sure are.

Nod of the miter: A CF reader.

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13 Responses to “Still Disobeying Church Law”

  1. Persis says:

    Gotta say, this really chaps my a–!

    There is not church without the priests, people!!
    When are we going to get this through our heads!!
    Yes, I believe that the involvement of the laity is important, but as I have said before, what ever his "title"(Pastor, Sacramental Minister, Parochial Vicar) a priest should be the ultimate authority regarding worship and sacraments, and should be treated with the respect and dignity of his office and not be made to answer to anyone but his Bishop in regards to worship and sacraments, period!

  2. Dr. K says:

    It adds even more weight to the argument against these titles when a lay minister agrees 🙂 Thanks Persis.

    Yes, the assistance of the laity in the ministry of the Church is a wonderful thing that is helping the Catholic Church to proclaim the Gospel message. I'm sure most people will agree with that. When things start going too far is when certain laity take it upon themselves to usurp the role of the ordained priest (i.e- leading the pastoral care of a parish, giving the homily, leading Baptisms when a priest and deacon are present, etc.).

    ~Dr. K

  3. Kelly says:

    LOL. Priestess is next – mark my words. On a side note, but good for another laugh:

    Someone landed on my blog by searching on Google for "right wing Catholic cleansing fire Rochester".

    Lord have mercy on the people of the DOR.

  4. Gen says:

    LOL Kelly!

    I can't believe that Mrs. DeRycke would be so bold as to do this. This is just over the line.

  5. Anonymous says:

    Who does SHE think SHE is? Nancy DeRycke-Stacy has no authority to confer upon herself the title of Pastoral Leader. In fact, nobody does. It is plainly obvious that only a priest may be considered a pastoral leader. The laity may assist the priest in his duties, or handle some administrative duties in the parish, but nothing that comes close to being the PASTORAL LEADER of a parish.

    Excommunicate her now, please. I think it's safe to assume that she made a new title for herself without the diocese's approval.

  6. Gen says:

    I can't excommunicate her, but I can give her a resounding thwack of the crozier.

  7. Christopher says:

    Here's an article from ewtn regarding the women's ordination conference with Sister Joan and Sister DeRycke, apparently Rochester is very prominent in it unfortunately:

    On another note, I must say that God has pointed me in the right direction and I have recently (as of this last week) found a hidden treasure in Rochester called St. Irenaeus ministries ( Dr. K, I'm not sure you have investigated this awesome place before but it has truly gives me hope that Mr. Higbee is fighting the good fight to turn Catholics into disciples of Christ in an orthodox fashion. I'd encourage you to go and talk to him or goto one of his bible studies. He and others there at St. Irenaeus have fueled my thirst for more knowledge and stronger faith in Christ our Savior. This place is not assisted financially at all by the DOR which is a shame, it is 100% donation driven. I plan on going tomorrow night to his study and Friday to the St Titus fellowship for 20s and 30s.

  8. Dr. K says:

    Christopher, we're very familiar with that particular document. For the record, Nancy DeRycke is no longer a member of the Sisters of St. Joseph. She left her order when she married then Rochester priest, Fr. Ron Stacy. So basically, Nancy left the religious life, and Ron left the ordained priesthood in order to wed.

    It's great to hear that you have discovered St. Irenaeus ministries. One or more of the staff members here at Cleansing Fire may be involved with this organization in some way 😉

    ~Dr. K

  9. Gen says:

    O, King of Subtlety Thou, Dr. K.

  10. RochChaCha says:

    Dr. K, Gen,

    Is the Richard McBrien referenced in the article posted earlier about Nancy DeRycke the same McBrien that is so often a contributor to the Catholic Courier? See quote below which is from the document Christopher posted earlier.

    Richard McBrien
    gave us the challenge 20 years ago: He said women who want to be priests must just act
    as if they are!"

  11. Anonymous says:

    Let's give these people a NEW title: "Northbound end of a Southbound horse"!

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  13. Gen says:

    I presume "B—-" means Bozo. 😉

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