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Club Jadot Watch – 4th Edition

December 9th, 2009, Promulgated by Dr. K

Another member of Club Jadot has had their resignation accepted by the Vatican. Bishop Raymundo Joseph Pe?a, prelate in charge of the Diocese of Brownsville, will be stepping down from his post. Auxiliary Bishop Ernest Flores, currently of the Archdiocese of Detroit, will succeed Bishop Pe?a as leader of Brownsville.

And then there were six.

Club Jadot

Serving past retirement age:

  • Raymundo Joseph Pe?a – Age 75.81 – Diocese of Brownsville
  • William Stephen Skylstad – Age 75.77 – Diocese of Spokane
  • Daniel Edward Pilarczyk – Age 75.33 – Archdiocese of Cincinnati – Coadjutor named
  • Eusebius Joseph Beltran – Age 75.27 – Archdiocese of Oklahoma City

Retires in 2011:

  • Roger Michael Card. Mahony – Age 73.78 – Archdiocese of Los Angeles

Retires in 2012:

  • Matthew Harvey Clark – Age 72.40 – Diocese of Rochester

Retires in 2013:

  • Howard James Hubbard – Age 71.11 – Diocese of Albany



10 Responses to “Club Jadot Watch – 4th Edition”

  1. avatar Anonymous says:

    They might as well die in office now. They've done their dirt.

  2. avatar Dr. K says:

    I wouldn't wish death or suffering on anyone. A healthy and peaceful resignation out of their volition on the other hand…?

    ~Dr. K

  3. avatar Anonymous says:

    No no. That wasnt a death wish. Im just saying they might as well stay in office until God calls them. The damage has already been done What's to gain by their retiring now??

  4. avatar Sed says:

    The sooner they retire, the sooner an new bishop can come in and the sooner solid priests can be groomed to preach to the people.

  5. avatar Anonymous says:

    It is refreshing to click on the Cleansing Fire web site and see the count down for Bishop Clark's retirement.

    All of the damage he has done during the past 30 years will have been in vain. I believe that we will see a renaissance in the Diocese of Rochester with a new Bishop.

    Once Bishop Clark wrote that he felt like a fish in a fish bowl. Well he was right. All eyes are upon him.

    Many of his own employees despise his negative actions.

  6. avatar Gen says:

    Definitely. I know so many priests who are less-than-solid, but you can tell they're only like that because they've been led to it by this one man. As people, we cannot judge them. However, it is our duty to oppose their actions. "Hate the sin, love the sinner."

  7. avatar Anonymous says:

    Gen, I noticed the quote you used. Lots of folks do. Take a look at this.

    'Hate the Sin but Love the Sinner': Not Scriptural, Not Catholic Doctrine

    Contrary to much popular belief, the catchphrase "hate the sin but love the sinner" is not of biblical origin, and caution should be given to its connotations. The tendency it too often leads to today is to view the sinner as a victim of his sin, rather than the author of the sin he commits.

    In truth, there are biblical teachings that contravene the above clich?, for example the following (from the Douay-Rheims Catholic Bible): (here you have to be a member or something to read the rest of the article. I'm not a member or I'd cut and past it for everyone.)

    You gotta admit that Bp Clark is hardly the victim. Anyway, I've never been comfortable with that phrase because it sounded a little "off" like the WWJD thing…okay on the outside but smells funky. Now I know why. But tell me what yout think, Gen. You're a sharp cookie. I'd like to know your thoughts. 🙂

  8. avatar Dr. K says:

    Very interesting point, Anon 4:44.

    ~Dr. K

  9. avatar Gen says:

    It's straight from Thomas Aquinas. I think he's a trustworthy source, no?


  10. avatar Anonymous says:

    Thanks. Yes, he is. I doubt he is in contrast to the sources that flowed from the New Oxford story. You have to admit that that phrase DOES INDEED tend to make the world look at the culprit as a victim. If you have a link to the words of Aquinas I would appreciate it. I have the Summa so if you could just point me to his words. Thank you, Gen.

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