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Psalm 2: Quare fremuerunt gentes

September 30th, 2009, Promulgated by Gen


1 Why have the Gentiles raged, and the people devised vain things?
2 The kings of the earth stood up, and the princes met together, against the Lord, and against his Christ.
3 Let us break their bonds asunder: and let us cast away their yoke from us.
4 He that dwelleth in heaven shall laugh at them: and the Lord shall deride them.
5 Then shall he speak to them in his anger, and trouble them in his rage.
6 But I am appointed king by him over Sion, his holy mountain, preaching his commandment.
7 The Lord hath said to me: Thou art my son, this day have I begotten thee.
8 Ask of me, and I will give thee the Gentiles for thy inheritance, and the utmost parts of the earth for thy possession.
9 Thou shalt rule them with a rod of iron, and shalt break them in pieces like a potter’s vessel.
10 And now, O ye kings, understand: receive instruction, you that judge the earth.
11 Serve ye the Lord with fear: and rejoice unto him with trembling.
12 Embrace discipline, lest at any time the Lord be angry, and you perish from the just way.
13 When his wrath shall be kindled in a short time, blessed are all they that trust in him.


My personal ideas regarding this and its pertinence to Rochester revolve around the first two verses:
1 Why have the Gentiles raged, and the people devised vain things? 2 The kings of the earth stood up, and the princes met together, against the Lord, and against his Christ. Why have people risen up and devised vain things? Is it because we grow too proud of our status, our goals or intentions, our liturgical positions? Let us not form tribunals to condemn Our Lord as seen in the second verse. However, let us convene tribunals to restore respect and majesty to His Liturgy. After all, it is His.

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5 Responses to “Psalm 2: Quare fremuerunt gentes”

  1. avatar Persis says:

    Good afternoon,

    I am curious, what version of the bible are you using?

    The wording here is much different than what is in my NAB version and in my NRIV version.

    Not better, not worse, just different, and I think that is were a lot of misunderstandings come from.

    It is my understanding that the NAB is the "recommended" version for use in the US. Please shed some light on this.

    Thanks and peace to all!

  2. avatar Gen says:

    The text we are using is the Douay-Rheims version of the Bible. It is considered by many to be the most accurate of translations, being taken directly from the Clementine Vulgate.

    I think there's a wikipedia page devoted to it if you want more info, Persis.

  3. avatar Persis says:

    Thanks, Gen!

    I "googled" it and got this website

    http://www.drbo.org, "the official site", have read a little history and the preface, very interesting.

    Uh-oh, I feel a new blog post coming…
    look for it in a couple of days!

    Peace to all!

  4. avatar Kelly says:

    Just a note about the DR version:

    We must be careful to not cleave to DR onlyism (not saying that you do; just putting it out there for others)just as many heretics cleave to KJV onlyism.

    Please read Jimmy Akin's article, Uncomfortable Facts about the DR @ http://www.catholic.com/thisrock/2002/0202bt.asp

    I also use the DR as a resource in addition to the RSV 2nd Catholic Edition, NAB (rarely) and my Navarre Bible(s) which use have both the Latin Vulgate and RSV and the Jerusalem Bible – depending upon whether I am studying, reading, etc.

    I am blessed to have leafs from a 1633 DR and I wish I could share them with everyone.

    (deleted previous post due to omitted word in an important place) 🙂

  5. avatar Rob says:

    "Serve ye the Lord with fear: and rejoice unto him with trembling.
    Embrace discipline, lest at any time the Lord be angry, and you perish from the just way."

    To me this means not referring to Jesus as "Brother Jesus" (a lack of fear) and obeying the teachings of the Catholic Church.

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