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Diocesan Double Standard?

September 16th, 2009, Promulgated by Choir

If someone is buried from Spiritus Christi Church why are they allowed to be buried at Holy Sepulchre Cemetery?

Why do I ask?

A very good friend was not allowed to be buried at Holy Sepulchre because he was buried from Holy Name of Mary Church on Winton Road.

I can’t imagine the DoR would have a double standard.

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17 Responses to “Diocesan Double Standard?”

  1. avatar Gen says:

    Any volunteers to find out? lol

  2. Yeah, I'm "dying" to find out.

  3. avatar Anonymous says:

    Is Bishop Clark the President of the corporation that owns Holy Sepulchre Cemetery?

    Why does Holy Sepulchre have to do so much advertising in the Democrat and Chronicle Newspaper, WHAM 1180 radio station and TV commercials?

    If they have money to waste, why don't they lower the price of being buried in the parishioner's cemetery.

  4. Good point, Anon. I'm not sure of the corporation part.

    I didn't know HS advertises. I mean it's not like they don't have a ready-made clientele. Actually the cemetery is a very good place to go and pray, especially the rosary. I like the eastside part best.

  5. avatar Anonymous says:

    From Holy Sepulchre's website-

    Who Can be buried in a Catholic Cemetery?

    A Catholic Cemetery is established to carry out the sacred religious function of burial and care of the resting places of the deceased members of the faith community. Burial rights in a Catholic cemetery can be acquired by any baptized Catholic person. The degree to which a baptized Catholic practices their religion is a personal matter and is never a factor in determining their right to purchase burial rights. Rights to these burial spaces once acquired by a baptized Catholic, may pass to that person?s heirs according to the statutes of New York State law regardless of the heirs? religious beliefs or affiliation.

    Generally rights of burial pass from the purchaser of the burial rights first to their spouse, then equally to their parents, their children and their children?s children until all the spaces for which the rights were acquired are used. Furthermore, a person holding rights of burial in a Catholic cemetery may specifically designate those rights to any other person(s), regardless of their relationship to the owner or the their religious affiliation or beliefs. If the original purchaser of the rights is deceased, this right of transfer passes to the surviving next of kin in the same manner in which burial rights pass to surviving heirs. It should be noted that burial rights pass by direct family relationship and not by residual inheritance. In other words, burial rights bequeathed to persons other than direct family descendants must be specifically identified in a will or trust.

    The most important consideration in who can or wishes to be buried in a Catholic cemetery is that the Catholic cemetery is a symbol of the our belief in the resurrection of the body and the hope of eternal life with Christ. It is a sacred place, consecrated by a bishop of the Roman Catholic Church. Monuments, headstones and cemetery features, such as statues and artwork, must have a dominant Christian religious theme. Symbols and markings which are contrary to Catholic beliefs and teachings can not be allowed. Therefore persons wishing to be buried there, must respect those beliefs and be willing to abide by the principles and rules governing the Catholic cemetery.

  6. avatar Sister Emily says:

    I wonder if there is more to the story..Hmmm.. I called and got preatty much same sory. Although I was told the purchaser had to be Baptized. A protastant could be buried there as long as the purchaser was baptized.

  7. avatar Dr. K says:

    My guess, and it's just that, a guess:

    Spiritus, although defiant of the Holy Father, as far as I know still recognizes him… maybe. The SSPV chapel, on the other hand, is proudly sedevacantist. Another possibility could be the bishop still holds a special place in his heart for Spiritus (his former model parish) and bends the rules for these people.

    ~Dr. K

  8. My thought was both groups (Spiritus and SSPV) are outside the jurisdiction of the Bishop so why would the Bishop allow Spiritus to use HS. You're probably right, Dr.K, it's bending the rules, favoritism.

  9. avatar Anonymous says:

    If Jim Callan is buried in the priests' section despite being laicized, I will lose all hope in mankind.

  10. avatar Anonymous says:

    I wonder where Bishop Matthew Harvey Clark would like to be buried?

    Would he like to be buried in Holy Sepulchre Cemetery or would he prefer to go back home to the Diocese of Albany?

  11. Bishop Clark will probably go back to Albany for his burial, would be my guess.

  12. avatar Gen says:

    That is, if he isn't assumed body and soul into heaven.

  13. avatar Dr. K says:

    I think Bishop Clark will ditch the Diocese of Rochester the second he retires and is replaced with an orthodox priest. He simply won't want to be around to see all his "reforms" be replaced with true, liturgically accurate reforms. He may take up residence with his good buddy, Bishop Hubbard. So yes, it seems likely that he would be buried in Albany and not Rochester.

    ~Dr. K

  14. avatar Dr. K says:

    "That is, if he isn't assumed body and soul into heaven."

    LOL.

    ~Dr. K

  15. avatar Rob says:

    The people at Spiritus Christi must believe Jim Callan will ascend into heaven three days after his death.

  16. avatar Scott/Mary says:

    Why is Spiritus Christi listed in the Frontier yellow pages as a Catholic Church? (pg. 308) Yes, people from Spiritus are allowed to be buried at Holy Scepular. One annoucement was in the D&C; yesterday 10/17/09.

  17. avatar Dr. K says:

    "Why is Spiritus Christi listed in the Frontier yellow pages as a Catholic Church? (pg. 308)"

    The yellow page folks don't care what you call your church, as long as you pay the bucks to get your entry in there. The Holy Name of Mary chapel and St. Casimir's Polish National (both schismatic) are also listed as Catholic in the yellow pages.

    ~Dr. K

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