Cleansing Fire

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Conclave Finale

September 20th, 2009, Promulgated by Gen


The two final candidates, Fr. Antinarelli and Fr. Bonsignore, have emerged in an almost perfect tie. Ideally, we would keep voting until we got 67% with one of the candidates, but something tells me that the 50/50 ratio will not change.

So what now? ideas for a resolution? Nominations for different “Cleansing Fire Cabinet” positions? Just post a comment! All ideas welcome.

PS: You may expect a Nod/Smack video this coming week.

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11 Responses to “Conclave Finale”

  1. Dr. K says:

    Draw names from a hat? I don't know, two solid candidates.

    ~Dr. K

  2. Gen says:

    I personally like the idea of a theoretical co-episcopacy, in that one is bishop, one is coadjutor.

  3. Anonymous says:

    Fr. Antinarelli as Bishop and Fr. Bonsignore as coadjutor. I love the thought. When Fr. Antinarelli retires, Fr. Bonsignore will pick up where he left off.

    Can you talk about a perfect scenario?

  4. Anonymous says:

    This is my note to the new Bishop of Rochester.

    Bishop Clark, don't you dare read or listen to these words, because you don't want any new Priests, Nuns, Altar Boys, or new parishioners.

    I hope and Pray that the new Bishop of Rochester will:

    Stop closing parishes and Catholic schools.

    Return all tabernacles to the center of every parish.

    Change the name back to the original name of several parishes and schools that were recently changed by you know who.

    Return the Confirmation Mass to each parish. It was always an honor to have the Bishop come to the parish.

    Stop demanding that all of these special Masses be held at Sacred Heart Cathedral, including the Red Mass for firefighters, Blue Mass for police and African Mass.

    Stop the liturgical abuse.

    Get rid of these infamous pastoral administrators.

    Any other suggestions?

  5. Dr. K says:

    Add lay preaching to that list (though it falls under liturgical abuse). If you end lay preaching, you cripple lay Administrators.

    There will be a poll on a topic similar to this coming in a few weeks. If there are any more ideas for changes that our next bishop should implement, do post them.

    ~Dr. K

  6. To the new bishop:

    I would ask that he facilitate a much wider use of the Tridentine Rite in ALL parts of the diocese. To affect this change, the new bishop should allow one or more of the major groups dedicated to the liturgy into the diocese. This has been done in many other dioceses with great success.

    To have mandatory monthly days of reflection around the diocese with his priests. Along with an intense promotion of new vocations to the holy priesthood in this diocese.

    To put up altar rails again and to receive Holy Communion on the tongue only and while kneeling.

    Be upfront about teaching Catholic practices and traditions. And explain our long traditional of Catholic practices. Why we do what we do as Catholics.

    Reinstitute the annual Mass for the Dead in Holy Sepulchre Cemetery.

    Bring in some of growing orders of Sisters to reopen our Catholic schools to teach the faith.

    As priests are available, reopen the inner city churches and never to abandon them again. Preach Catholicism and the need for repentance. Stop all the social gospel.

    Continue to feed people corporally; but feed them spiritually with Catholicism.

    All priests must wear the Roman collar or cassocks and nuns the full habit.

    Resurrect the practice of the 40 Hours Devotion throughout the diocese.

    Stop what passes for music in Catholic churches and use much more traditional music. My preference is to never hear another guitar et al in any church in the diocese.

    Fund, at diocesan expense, orthodox groups such as the Irenaeus Center, Chesteron Society.

    I'm sure if there is anything else, I'll be back.

  7. Anonymous says:

    Let's send our list containing the final two to Rome and have them decide!

  8. Our own little terna. I'm all for it.

  9. IrondequoitCatholic says:

    Can someone answer this for me?

    When Bishop Clark retires, if the bishop who replaces him is more conservative than I'd like, as Bishop Clark is too liberal for you Cleansing Fireballs, would I then have the right to demonize and lambaste him as you do here? Would that be OK?

    Or is it only OK to publicly disrespect your bishop when you are absolutely convinced that you know more than he and the pope that sent him?

    Me, I'm not that smart.

    It must be great to be more Catholic than the Catholic the Catholic Church says you're supposed to obey and respect.

    I have a lot to learn from you Careening Fire Birds. I'll have to check back often so I'm ready in two years.

  10. Dr. K says:

    "When Bishop Clark retires, if the bishop who replaces him is more conservative than I'd like, as Bishop Clark is too liberal for you Cleansing Fireballs, would I then have the right to demonize and lambaste him as you do here? Would that be OK?"

    It's free speech, so yes, you can. Why don't you take a look at how the progressive Catholics like yourself destroyed a holy man in Bishop Martino of Scranton.

    "Or is it only OK to publicly disrespect your bishop when you are absolutely convinced that you know more than he and the pope that sent him?"

    When our bishop commits and allows liturgical abuses, yes, it is right and necessary to call him out on it. Lay preaching of the homily is illegal. Liturgical dancing is condemned. Lay pastoral administration is of dubious legality. Are we supposed to remain silent? No, we are not.

    "Me, I'm not that smart. "

    You've made that sufficiently clear.

    "It must be great to be more Catholic than the Catholic the Catholic Church says you're supposed to obey and respect. "

    We do obey and respect the Church. Maybe your bishop should obey and respect her like you accuse us of not doing.

    ~Dr. K

  11. Gen says:

    Thoroughly smote, Dr. K. Thoroughly smote.

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