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Theology on Tap – Liberalism’s treacherous Trap

June 17th, 2009, Promulgated by Gen

We’ve known for a while that the Rochester Diocese’s version of Theology on Tap is more leftist propaganda than actual religious Truth. The latest schedule confirms this as blatently as possible:

Some highlights for the “Summer 12-Pack Series” include:

  1. June 24 – What’s with Community? with Dr. David Stousr, St. Bernard’s School of theology and Ministry
  2. June 30 – Stem Cells and the Catholic Church with Dr. Patricia Schoelles, SSJ, President of St. Bernard’s
  3. July 7 – Angels and Demons with Barb Swiecki, Pastoral Administrator of Guardian Angels
  4. July 22 – Living Our Gifts with Nancy DeRycke, Pastoral Administrator of Good Shepherd
  5. August 4 – Africa, AIDS, Condoms and the Church with Kevin Mannara, St Mary’s Downtown
  6. September 1 – Making Christian Choices with Fr. Robert Kennedy, Pastor, Blessed Sacrament

Some people might not know why I included the last one, the only identified priest on the list. Fr. Kennedy, an otherwise great priest, is supposed to have “blessed a same-sex couple” at Mass. I don’t have all of the details so I wont’ elaborate on the rumors I have heard.

So, this is what Rochester has to offer its young adults? I would much rather my theology be taught to me in a classroom or a church than a pub. Then again, once you get hammered, I’ll bet that the liberals begin to make a bit (just a bit) of sense.

If only Pope Benedict were in charge of the diocesan Theology on Tap program . . .


28 Responses to “Theology on Tap – Liberalism’s treacherous Trap”

  1. The Irenaeus Center on Blossom Road has been doing excellent job promoting orthodox Catholicism. They have a lot of young Catholics in the Saint Titus Fellowship. All the members are genuinely warm and very knowledgeable about the Catholic faith. YAY!!!

  2. Dr. K says:

    Fr. Kennedy is involved with the local homosexual ministry, and more importantly was one of the three architects of a letter signed and sent to the Vatican that criticizes the Church for her language with regard to homosexual persons. So even if he did not bless a union (who knows, nothing surprises me anymore in the DoR), he still has done enough to warrant being considered a liberal-leaning priest.

    Oh, and the rest of that list looks like an all-star lineup. I do see a few snubs this year, if this is the entire list of progressives. Namely a certain St. Anne priestess. She has the credentials to blow all those other liberals out of the water, and has been having a particularly strong regular season in driving away the orthodox (she has an unofficial .673 average in that category). Oh well, maybe she'll crack the lineup next year, or get in with fan voting.

    ~Dr. K

  3. Anonymous says:

    I have to agree with the above plug for the Irenaeus Center. Its Friday night St. Titus Fellowship is by far the best thing in the diocese for the 18+ crowd.

    For Dr. K, Joan Sobala made an appearance at Theology on Tap last year. Maybe she's having trouble dredging enough heterodoxy and heresy for another round. From the Catholic Courier article:

    The life of Jesus was a series of transitions," Sister Sobala remarked.

    Sometimes transitions were not of his own making, Sister Sobala noted, including the time when a Phoenician woman from Syria, who asked for a miracle for her daughter, taught him to serve Gentiles as well as Jews. In another instance of a transformation, she said Jesus learned from Mary, his mother, to be accepting and flexible after Mary called on him to perform a miracle at the wedding at Cana.

    She said Jesus knew by the end of his life that he was loved by God, and he was able to share that love even as he was tormented.

    ~ TD

  4. Anonymous says:

    Those statements from Joan Sobala are heresy.

  5. Gen says:

    I wonder if they haven't yet been sent to Rome? Perhaps one of you could try to get some documentation and send it off.

  6. Anonymous says:

    The CDF would love to see those statements if anyone has a printed copy, or video, or recording.

    I know DoR Mike made a post on this before, maybe he has the source available.

  7. Anonymous says:

    Here is the link for the above at DoR Mike's site:

    Here is the link to the Catholic Courier page where the original Joan quotes appeared:;=102790

  8. Anonymous says:

    Write to the CDF:

    William Card. Levada
    Prefect for the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith
    Piazza del S. Uffizio, 11
    00193 Roma, Italy

    Write clearly and briefly, send documented examples in print, be polite, try not to use the word "hersey" but rather express concern about the accuracy of the statements. Lastly, promise your prayers and actually pray for assistance.

  9. Anonymous says:

    I would also mention that the Pastoral Administrator, Sr. Sobala, preaches regularly in her parishes. This would raise their eyebrows even further. Its one thing to proclaim heresy in a bar, its another to preach it at the pulpit.

    Yes, the Curia does take action to fight these problems. It may take time for them to do so, maybe many months, but something very likely could happen if the evidence is solid enough and they have a strong enough reason to do so.

  10. Anonymous says:

    The folks at the Good Shepherd Youtube channel removed your comment and now disallow comments to be posted.

    Good Shepherd continues to cover up their abuses and attempts to silence the voices of reason and truth.

  11. Gen says:

    Let the fire descend. 😉

  12. Rob says:

    I hope the blog author will consider a story on the following:

    St. John of Rochester, among other Rochester parishes, has a practice of inviting a laywoman to come forward and deliver a homily/reflection after a brief introduction by the priest or deacon. What's amusing is this parish actually had the courage to put this liturgical abuse online for all to see… or rather hear. Here is a link to the latest abuse: and the text of her reflection is here: The priest or deacon speaks for a minute and a half, and the Pastoral Associate, Barbara Hesenius, spoke for over 12 minutes. Yes, over 12.

    What complete and utter nonsense.


  13. Gen says:

    I'll get right on it. Thanks for the tip.

  14. Anonymous says:

    That list is a "Who's Who" of local dissidents.

  15. Anonymous says:

    They also forgot Nora Bradbury from St Paul's in Webster, who could give a wonderful lesson on ignoring the magesterium

  16. Anonymous says:

    Not for anything, if they haven't come down ob Rembert Weakland for his book, do you really think they'll do anything about Sr. Joan and the like. I'm sorry but I don't see anything happening from Rome.

  17. Anonymous says:

    Weakland is no longer the bishop of Milwaukee.

  18. Anonymous says:

    He's still a bishop even though he is retired.

  19. This is just an observation on my part concerning blogs in the DoR.

    The orthodox Catholic blogs seem to get a lot of comments and are very active.

    However, the liberal/progressive blogs seem to get no comments whatsoever.

    What would you make of this situation? I have my ideas but wonder what others think.

    Oremus pro invicem!

  20. Dr. K says:

    Response to above post-

    Some of the progressive blogs block user posts or restrict who can post (so you'll only see progressive posts when you go there), because they are afraid of the truth being posted. They also try and control the information to make it all appear pro-progressive (they sound a lot like the liberal media, don't they? lol). Most other prog. blogs, as you noted, just don't generate the interest. I don't know why, there are a number of progressives out there. Maybe as the church becomes more orthodox, you'll notice a panic among the progressives, and they'll come out in floods to bitch about how their fun is ending. Or, maybe, they're afraid to post their progressive thoughts, because much of it is heresy and could result in them losing their current church positions.

    ~Dr. K

  21. Dr. K – Like the book with the same name, "Liberalism is a Sin",it really does seem liberals love control of information and they also love power to control others. They usually seem mad most of the time, or at least frustrated.

    One of my friends went from being a ultra-progressive, Unitarian to a ultra-conservative, traditional Roman Catholic. WOW!! what a switch that was. She is fully convinced it's the sin of pride that stopped her from admitting the truth when she was a liberal.

    The Liberals/progressives that I have been involved with always seem so suspicious of new circumstances or new people. A priest friend explained to me once about liberals: it's all based on lies. If you believe their lie; they will believe your lie. Not a stitch of truth to be found.

    They're like whiny little weasels when they don't get their way. They can't seem to "suck it up"…EVER!

    Let's pray for all the misguided liberals and progressive whether they are Catholic or not.


  22. Anonymous says:

    Liberals are going to cry now that the Church is becoming more orthodox. I hope they all head off to Spiritus Christi, because your time hijacking the Holy Catholic Church is coming to an end.

  23. Anonymous says:

    There's many reasons why progressives don't support progressive blogs:

    1. They are all morons with no knowledge and no meaningful contributions to make.
    2. When they do make contributions they look like damn fools, so they don't do it often. (i.e- Someone at the NCR posted a comment saying Jesus was a woman).
    3. They're too busy getting abortions and buying birth control to find time to make posts.
    4. Most are in their 60s or older and do not know how to use a computer.
    5. No two progressives agree, so it may be that one progressive's thoughts are just that; one progressive's thoughts.
    6. Maybe some have found out how hypocritical it is to consider yourself a progressive, but the agenda you're pushing is really a fantasy of may or may not have happened in the distant past.
    7. Progressives are too busy reading the Bible to contribute to blogs (ok, that one is a lie)

  24. Gen says:

    Well done. 😉

  25. Nerina says:

    I can only imagine what Sr. Schoelles will say about Stem Cells and the Church. Now, if Jann Armatrout was giving this talk, I'd be there in a second. That woman is about the only voice of sanity working at the diocesan office. She is smart, articulate and from everything I've ever read by her or heard from her own mouth, very faithful to the Church and her social teaching. Sr. Schoelles? Not so much.

  26. Gen says:

    I think that if we had truly respectful and reverent laity helping out the clergy, the situation would be much, much better. It's just that the ones in charge are so casual in their approach to religion. A faith based on a man being nailed to a cross is not to be taken casually.

  27. Anonymous says:

    Amen to that.

  28. Anonymous says:

    Dr. Patricia Schoelles started off the talk well, but then brought Charles Curran into the converstaion, but failed to give the disclaimer of his status within the church.

    With that, she lost all credibility in my eyes.

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