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Just “Male Celibates” as Priests?

June 29th, 2009, Promulgated by Gen

“I know to raise the issue of women and married men to be considered as priests is unacceptable for some among us?not for me?I pray that wherever priests come from that we as God?s family would be open to allow people to serve?if you feel only male celibates should be ordained, fine, encourage and pray for that?if you feel women or married men should be considered, encourage and pray for that?wherever the vocations come from, let us just pray and accept them to serve. My prayer for this Year of the Priest is that all in our Church would be open to consider the many fine Deacons who could be ordained to Ministerial Priesthood?that we would not be afraid to open ourselves to other Married Men becoming candidates?that our Church would use this year to study and examine whether women should be ordained as deacons?that we would consider the possibility that God has planted the vocation to Priesthood in women?s lives and we would seriously try to discern that?that even for Bishops, we would return to the traditional process where the people of the Diocese had a say in offering candidates?I am sure that these ideas are not a part of Pope Benedict?s plan for this year, but as long as we are going to focus on Priests, let?s consider all the dimensions of Priesthood and the real need our Church has..Well, I have said enough for today?enjoy the LPGA if you are going out to Locust Hill?and see you in Church? Peace!”

I bow before the inflated and simplistic sacramental theology of Fr. Kevin Murphy. If you have ever read my postings (which, I am sure, you have) you will get the idea that I loathe duplicity. Fr. Kevin asks people to pray for whatever they feel is right, and to do so internally. If only he practiced what he preached, and contained his schismatic tendencies to himself rather than infest and infect his parishioners with this naive and immature nonsense. The ordination of women will not happen at any point. The Church has taught and upheld this officially through the millenia. If you doubt me, then I ask you this: why did the medieval world have such a fit over the rumors of Pope Joan? Because they knew that the ordination of women was so contrary to the faith founded by Our Lord and fostered by his Apostles and Disciples. The decision on female ordination and the married priesthood is final, and it is a most resounding “NO.”



23 Responses to “Just “Male Celibates” as Priests?”

  1. Is this a transcription from memory, or do you have a link to the text?

  2. Michael says:

    I just click on the link to the bulletin and read the full article… WOW!

    How can a priest publish this? Any other diocese in the world, and he would be in for serious punishment. Yet, nothing happens to these priests in the DoR?

    Someone needs to forward this entire bulletin to the CDF with a brief cover letter ASAP. This can't go on. This is HERESY. He is praying for change to an infallible doctrine of the faith, and he has the courage to publish this in writing!

  3. Anonymous says:

    Fr. Murphy's statements are unacceptable.

  4. Gen says:

    Feel free to send this in. I would not hesitate to do so. the more of you that report something like this, the more probable that action will be taken.

  5. Dr. K says:

    This is the same priest who prefers First Communion be made before First Confession.

    I'm not surprised that a person with these views is a priest in the DoR. I'm also not surprised even that he's still running a parish. What surprises me is that he freely publishes a comment like this, which is contrary to the doctrine of our Catholic Church, in his bulletin. To actually put this in writing…

    For those considering a letter to the CDF, here is the mailing address:

    His Eminence William Card. Levada
    Prefect for the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith
    Piazza del S. Uffizio 11
    00193 Roma, Italy

    Sending the bulletin is a wise idea.

    ~Dr. K

  6. MD0852 says:

    I am a parishioner at St Louis and I thank you for putting this on your site! I read this after Mass on Sunday and was stunned! This type of talk is sadly common here. I will be sending a copy of this to the CDF.

  7. Nerina says:

    Well…cross St. Louis off my list as possible church to attend instead of my current one.

  8. Good evening, all. I had forgotten to post this earlier, so please forgive me (mea culpa!). Tomorrow night, Tuesday, June 30th at 7 p.m., the Sacrament of Confirmation will be conferred in the Traditional Latin Rite by Father William Laird, the priest-designate of Bishop Clark.

    It will be at St. Stanislaus Church on the corner of Hudson Avenue and Norton Street. Confirmation will be followed by Latin Benediction. There will be no Tridentine Mass, just Confirmation and Benediction.

    We have 14 confirmands. This is the first year out of 16 year existence that we have had confirmation.

    Pray for our confirmands.

  9. Anonymous says:

    MD, please do it. It's very important that the Vatican at least be made aware. Sure it'll cost maybe 5 bucks to send it overseas, but at least you can look yourself in the mirror and say "I tried, Lord, I tried to help your Church."

    God bless you, please write. If you have more examples to send from the past, send them.

  10. Anonymous says:

    Tell Fr. Murphy what you think about this heresy:

  11. Anonymous says:

    It is one thing to believe this, it is another for a priest to publish it in his bulletin. He clearly made a statement that is contrary to what we Catholics believe. I'm so frustrated with the DoR. I wonder if I'd just be happier moving away to another diocese. My faith is very important to me, and I don't know how much more I can take of the Fr. Murphys and the like. This is going too far. They are letting their politics overflow into their pastoral duty. They are misleading their faithful. Why? Why are they doing this? What could've happened to previously good priests to lead them to make statements like this? I'm sure he's a holy man, but this is not an appropriate thing to say. I mean, he is basically praying for a change to an infallible part of our faith! That is shocking. It is statements like this which contributed to Fr. Callan's excommunication. Why would a priest risk his position and standing in the Church for politics? Even if he is an older priest, he could be tarnishing his legacy and reputation with statements like these.

    Like Father Z says, say the black do the red. He shouldn't be playing with the faith like this. Women are not chosen by God to be priests. All you need to do is look in the Bible if you don't want to accept what the Holy Father says.

    I'm sorry for rambling, I'm just so upset and frustrated with the state of our diocese. Can anyone do anything about this? I might try the letter to the CDF if it could help stop these problems. Then again, even if one problem is defeated, then others will spring up. It always seems to go like that in Rochester.

  12. Laura says:

    This is so sad. We need to pray for priests like Fr. Murphy, that they realize the errors in their ways. This is the first time I have heard of a Rochester priest making a direct public statement like this about the ordination of women.

    Fr. Murphy will be in my prayers tonight.

  13. Anonymous says:

    The decision on female ordination and the married priesthood is final, and it is a most resounding "NO."

    Just to clarify… the decision on a married priests is not "final." After all, it is a matter of discipline for the Latin Rite, not an intrinsic part of the priesthood. There are validly ordained, married priests in good standing in the Catholic Church, both in the Latin Rite and the Eastern Churches.

    But whereas the Church could change the discipline of celibacy for the Latin Rite, it has no right, no authority, and no ability to ordain a woman as a priest.


  14. Anonymous says:

    Thank you, TD, that is accurate.

  15. Gen says:

    Yes, the Church's stand on the married priesthood is a discipline. However, the amount of times which the Church has changed the nature of a sacrament can be counted on one hand. In theory, yes, it can change. But it won't. If one looks at the tumult the Protestant churches have been thrown into because of the pastor and his/her family he clearly sees that such a decision would be a detriment to the priesthood. And when the priesthood falters, so to do the other six sacraments.

    And also, the Church has said "no" to both. It's not as if they are up for debate. When our pope says, "no, not now" he means just that.

  16. Sed says:

    This priest makes me want to bang my head on a wall. OK, not seriously, but I'm losing my marbles over all this dissent.

  17. Anonymous says:

    And also, the Church has said "no" to both. It's not as if they are up for debate. When our pope says, "no, not now" he means just that.

    I'm not suggesting it's up for debate right now, and I'm certainly not condoning the actions of this priest. Just, as I said, clarifying.


  18. Dr. K says:

    MD0852- "I will be sending a copy of this to the CDF."

    Good luck. Try and send an actual copy of the bulletin if at all possible, rather than a print off of the PDF. The CDF requires a stronger degree of evidence than the other Vatican congregations, so it is best to have an actual copy of the bulletin as published evidence of Fr. Murphy's prayer remark.

    ~Dr. K

  19. Anonymous says:

    Wouldn't this fellow be more at home at Spiritus?

  20. Anonymous says:

    Fr. Murphy is taking a dump on our Church with his words of dissent. Figuratively and literally.

  21. Kelly says:

    Thank you for bringing this to my attention. I posted the topic on my own blog as I believe that the more people who see this, the better.

    +Pray for the people of the Diocese of Rochester+

  22. Dr. K says:

    Thanks, Kelly, for helping to spread the word. It is important that people out there realize the seriousness of the situation that exists in the DoR. It is also important for the parishioners of St. Louis parish to realize what their priest is feeding them, and to wake up and get out before they develop a taste for this toxic dissenting mush.

    ~Dr. K

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