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Thomas Peters: 7 Reasons Why I Believe Archbishop Vigano’s Accusations To Be Credible [Updated]

August 27th, 2018, Promulgated by Ben Anderson

Click this link to read it all: 7 Reasons Why I Believe Archbishop Vigano’s Accusations To Be Credible [Updated]

It really isn’t worth snipping any of it, but I have to just to fill out the post a bit.

Make no mistake, we are living through a historic moment in the Church’s life….

I think the next steps here are simple: the claims made in the letter must be thoroughly investigated both by the secular and Catholic press and by competent ecclesiastical authorities …

There is now a coordinated counter-effort underfoot to discredit Abp. Vigano and his accusations, both by progressive Catholics and the mainstream media (led, of course, by the New York Times). They are attempting to discredit the letter primarily by attacking Abp. Vigano….

Even if it turns out Pope Benedict is guilty, I will and must accept that truth….

In the days, weeks and months ahead, we must continue praying and fasting for our Church.

And if you are a bishop, what you say or don’t say, do or don’t do, is something you will have to account for before the face of God.

Because only the truth will set us free.

May Jesus have mercy on us all.

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15 Responses to “Thomas Peters: 7 Reasons Why I Believe Archbishop Vigano’s Accusations To Be Credible [Updated]”

  1. avatar christian says:

    Here is an article from the Vatican 18 hours ago, relaying Pope Francis refusing to comment on claims that he lifted the sanctions imposed on Cardinal McCarrick by Pope benedict XVI.
    http://www.foxnews.com/world/2018/08/26/pope-refuses-to-comment-on-claims-ignored-mccarrick-abuse-accusations.html

  2. avatar christian says:

    Sorry, that should be Pope Benedict XVI. I wanted to make sure I didn’t unintentionally disrespect a pope who I admire.

  3. avatar Ginger says:

    I don’t need 7 reason to believe Vigano’s testimony. The silence of mainstream media throughout all this confirms the truth.

  4. avatar christian says:

    I agree with Ginger. I believe Vigano’s Testimony.

    It is interesting that mainstream media seem to side with a pope with liberal leanings who embraces secular causes such as global warming and the environment, seemingly, as a priority, yet was critical of a conservative pope who took sexual abuse among clerics in the church seriously and also opened the doors for many to be able to enter into full communion with the Catholic Church.

    A pope whom I admire, Pope Benedict XVI, got rid of a cleric with decades

    I definitely believe Archbishop Vigano’s testimony.

    I also recount how Pope Benedict XVI removed a high-ranking cleric who had decades worth of reports regarding sexual abuse of seminarians, as soon as he sat in the Chair of St. Peter. Apparently, he was already familiar with the case and no action was taken previously. The high-ranking who he dismissed had been bringing much monies into the church, and it was suspected that was at least in part, responsible for this cleric not being dismissed earlier. Pope Benedict XVI had strong views regarding the sexual abuse of minors and adults by clerics in the Catholic Church.

    The mainstream media seems to back a liberal pope; particularly when he champions mainstream, secular causes like global warming and he environment.

    Yet, the mainstream media appeared to be critical of a conservative pope who supports orthodoxy and Christian values of the Catholic Church. Pope Benedict XVI, a pope whom I admire, opened the doors of the Catholic Church for many to come back or for many to come in. He made a provision for the Tridentine Mas and for Anglicans and other Protestant denominations to enter into full communion with the Catholic Church.

  5. avatar raymondfrice says:

    “Apparently, he was already familiar with the case and no action was taken previously. The high-ranking who he dismissed had been bringing much monies into the church, and it was suspected that was at least in part, responsible for this cleric not being dismissed earlier.”

    In the interest of accuracy and full disclosure, are you referring to ST. John Paul the Great, Benedict’s predecessor??

  6. avatar Dominick Anthony Zarcone says:

    “Did Pope Francis ignore and cover up McCarrick’s sexual abuse of seminarians, abuse made possible by McCarrick’s immoral use of his episcopal authority?” firstthings.com/web-exclusives… “Our pontiff must confirm brethren in truth by telling Church what he knew / did regarding McCarrick”

    Monseigneur Murray

  7. avatar Ben Anderson says:

    I finally read the 11-page “Testimony” of Archbishop Vigano. I think I’m someone who generally has a calm demeanor and isn’t swayed too quickly by my passions. I even braced myself as I knew it was bad and that it would be difficult to read. Well, my blood is absolutely boiling.

    The response thus far of the Pope, Cardinal Cupich, and others are completely consistent with Vigano’s testimony. I think we all need to realize this. Assuming this information is true (and it sure seems like it is), how would we expect them to react? Exactly as they are – that’s how. Are we expecting those who are named in the Testimony to resolve this themselves? I sure hope not. And if they pull this one off, then may God have mercy on all of us. We are up against a great evil here. Every single bishop in this country must address this situation. It must be dealt with. For a bishop to ignore this would be analogous to a father welcoming a serial raper into their house and leaving them alone with their teenage daughter. BE A MAN! STAND UP FOR WHAT’S RIGHT! STAND UP FOR YOUR PEOPLE!

  8. avatar Ginger says:

    Ben, I am also concerned about the silence. Fr. Gabriel Amorth characterizes evil as unwilling to be revealed. When it does finally speak (prefers silence in the face of Truth) there is no Truth. Considering the pinnacle the evil has reached, it is not likely it will topple easily without trying to get what it is there for…mainly souls.

    Consider Philippians 2:12

    The specter appears predominately as homosexual but the fact is that the diabolical can disguise itself in many forms to deceive.

    When the Music Man came into town it was easy to get the attention and favor of the righteous when he spelled out T-r-o-u-b-l-e.

    How ready so many of us were to hear laity homilies come to an end? Our T-r-o-u-b-l-e was over, at last we have help!

    We need to revisit the letter sent by those (26?) diocesan priests to St. John Paul II. Interestingly, I can’t find an internet link to that MSM news story. I know I personally saved that document but can’t find it at the moment.

    Personally, I feel there is too much water over the dam to put back anytime soon. Short of a miracle…a very large scale miracle, the balance of our lives will be characterized by what we have always known if you were born in the 1950’s and beyond…basically we are living our Faith as though like under communist oppression. There may even be a time soon when available reception of Holy Communion is infrequent. Already, so many isolated elderly suffer from lack of Church community in their lives. Our children are starved of knowing the Truth as the Church softens to divorce and sexual perversion among other bad things.

    Did you ever consider the succession of changes in reception of Holy Communion since the 1950’s?
    Think about what that succession means to you. I certainly have.

  9. avatar Dominick Anthony Zarcone says:

    Recently I have heard a good Homily at each of the two Catholic Parishes (one is not quite a Parish yet canonically) where I worship, serve and study. Both of the homilies honestly reflected upon the sex abuse crisis in Christ’s Catholic Church. Both encouraged me and reminded me of Our Savior Christ and the promises of God fulfilled in the Lord Jesus who has entrusted the fullness of grace, truth and means of salvation to God’s Catholic Church.

    That being said, I am calling the Homily linked below, THE HOMILY WE MUST ALL HEAR. I don’t know who preached it, where it was preached or when. Yet, it is the Homily we must all hear. I found it posted on Spirit Daily.

    https://s3.amazonaws.com/spm-straph-parish-wp/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/20084333/208.mp3

  10. avatar Ginger says:

    https://straphaelcrystal.org

    That is Father Robert Altier at Church of St. Raphael, Crystal Minnesota.

    Thanks Dominick for bringing that to our attention. Yes it is a homily we all must hear.

  11. avatar Ginger says:

    All they need now is a group of psychologists to use this grand study of shame to declare religious suppression as the route cause of secrecy and abuse. Homosexuality is already removed from the DSM-5. They won’t go back in that book without a fight. They now have ammunition to move forward. A RICO investigation would only serve to pick up tidbits of wealth here and there for interested parties…like vultures on a corpse after the kill by a lion. Even if Pope Francis comes through with a grade average of D at the end as he steps away….if he steps away, the damage is already complete.

    St. Stephen First Martyr of the Church was 29 when he saw the Glory of God.

    Seventy is the sum of our years,
    or eighty, if we are strong;
    Most of them are toil and sorrow;
    they pass quickly, and we are gone. Psalm 90:10

    Longevity runs in my family so that number could be ninety or one hundred if I remain strong.

    Our Catholic Brothers and Sisters are many and so are our thoughts at this time. We need to recognize the reality and extent of the situation instead of just pointing accusatory fingers. It is what it is.

    Philippians 2:12

  12. avatar Ben Anderson says:

    Yes, that’s a good homily, Dominick. I’ve heard a couple other good homilies that address both the McCarrick situation and the PA grand jury report. However, I think the Vigano testimony adds a completely new dimension to all of this. If it’s true that this problem does go all the way to the top, then how exactly is it going to be cleaned up? I bring this up not to question God’s providence or divine plan, but to say that I’m not sure I have much optimism that things are going to start getting better. If no action is taken… as it wasn’t after Amoris, and as it wasn’t after the recent Catechism change, after Hell was denied, etc, then things are only going to get worse. I fear we’re in the calm before another storm here in Rochester (when our wonderful time with Bishop Matano comes to an end). That outlook doesn’t change what we need to do, which is to strive for holiness in doing God’s will. I just don’t want to set myself up for some false expectations that in a few years the church will be cleaned up. It’s only going to get better if the one sitting in Peter’s chair truly wants to clean it up and has the God given skills to do it. I hope and pray that it turns out differently, but I’m preparing myself for the fact that it may not.

  13. avatar Dominick Anthony Zarcone says:

    Ben is wise to prepare himself for the fact that things are not going to start to get better soon and stay better.

    Perhaps part of that preparation, a preparation all of us should make, is to be ready spiritually for persecution. ‘St. Athanasius Against The World’ might very well be our example/model of determination to persevere no matter what evil surrounds us. Father Grunow exhorts, “Athanasius invites us to stand with him “contra mundi”.

    May God continue to grace us with discernment; a discernment which equips us so we can continue to know who are the faithful bishops, priests and Parishes. For it is with them that we are encouraged to stand against the world.

    Imagine the challenge Athanasius faced. He virtually stood alone. Thanks be to God for the fellowship that Catholic websites like CF help us discover and cultivate. Let us continue to support each other in prayer as we cry out, https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gcl4hDmp1yE

  14. avatar Dominick Anthony Zarcone says:

    Four Reasons why the priest who authored this article believes Vigano:
    https://dwightlongenecker.com/four-reasons-why-i-believe-archbishop-vigano/


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