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Annual Good Friday Stations of the Cross

April 6th, 2011, Promulgated by Dr. K

The annual Stations of the Cross in reparation for abortion will take place once again this year on Good Friday. Instead of wasting your time at the “ecumenical stations” like our diocesan leaders, come and pray for an end to abortion in our world and the right to life for countless infants slaughtered each year.

The event will begin at McQuaid Jesuit high school, located at 1800 South Clinton Ave, on Good Friday (April 22nd) at 9 AM. Following the prayer service, those participating will march to a local abortion facility and pray the Stations of the Cross and Divine Mercy chaplet.

Please consider attending. Feel free to invite your local bishop.

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38 Responses to “Annual Good Friday Stations of the Cross”

  1. avatar Anonymous says:

    In what way is walking and praying the stations of the cross with our Bishop and our sisters and brothers in Christ a “waste of time?” Both of these endeavors are worthwhile and blessed in the sight of God. Please pray the stations with either of these groups or another group of Christians if you are able.

  2. avatar Anonymous says:

    Absolutely! Agree one hundred percent!

  3. avatar A Catholic says:

    In my opinion either one is good but it says something that our bishop has never once (as far as I know) found the time to pray with the group that goes to the abortion site on Good Friday. To not ever be there sends a message that abortion doesn’t matter, and that is just the opposite of what our Church teaches on this most important life issue. His presence there or at other pro-life events would inspire others to become involved and in so doing might actually lead to the lives of unborn children being saved and their mothers and fathers being spared the awful experience of aborting a child.

  4. avatar Anonymous says:

    So, invite him.

  5. avatar Dr. K says:

    I really cannot understand why any prayer to God would be a “waste of time.” The Holy Father himself will gather in Assisi with leaders of many world religions to pray with them. So even the objection that the prayer is not exclusively Roman Catholic seems to be rather weak. If the Pope can gather in that beautiful city of Assisi where that wonderful saint came from with non-Catholics and pray, I don’t see why our bishop and others cannot gather with other Christians and pray the Way of the Cross, which is a very Catholic prayer! Why must it always be an either/or?

    Check your facts: http://www.catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/1101328.htm

  6. avatar A Catholic says:

    To Anon. 10:37- It is my understanding that the Pro-Life Planning Committee that organizes the Good Friday pro-life Stations has invited the Bishop over the years, but he has always declined.

  7. avatar bob dorscheid says:

    I believe this is the 22nd year of this prayer servive. The bishop did lead a prayer service at the cathederal the first year but did not process with us to the abortion site. And yes he has been invited every year that we have organized this prayerful gathering on Good Friday. We would greatly welcome him this year if he would come. I would ask all you viewers to invite him and their parrish priests, deacons and staff to join us this year.

  8. avatar Anonymous says:

    “The Vatican press office issued a statement April 2 giving the theme for the 2011 event — “Pilgrims of Truth, Pilgrims of Peace” — and a general outline of events.

    “Every human being is ultimately a pilgrim in search of truth and goodness,” the Vatican statement said.

    “The search requires people to enter into dialogue with others, “believers and unbelievers alike, without sacrificing one’s own identity or indulging in forms of syncretism” where elements of different religions are used indiscriminately, the statement said.

    “To the extent that the pilgrimage of truth is authentically lived, it opens the path to dialogue with the other, it excludes no one and it commits everyone to be a builder of fraternity and peace. These are the elements that the Holy Father wishes to place at the center of reflection,” the Vatican said.–Catholic News

    Just because the Holy Father has chosen to pray formally at the Vatican does not mean that he will not pray in Assisi on Oct. 25. The entire message in the Catholic News article was very pro-interreligious prayer. In fact, Pope John Paul II set the precedent ( and he was criticized by some Catholics who just didn’t “get” what he was trying to do)in 1985.

  9. avatar Dr. K says:

    Anon, you provide no proof that the Holy Father will pray with members of other faiths. This was the point Annon 9:22 was attempting to make to justify Bishop Clark praying the ecumenical Stations of the Cross instead of joining his fellow Catholics at the annual pro-life Stations, which he continues to avoid year after year.

  10. avatar Dr. K says:

    Non-Catholic Christians are not the enemy.

    When they take people away from the Eucharist, are we to call them our friends?

  11. avatar Anonymous says:

    Dr K,
    What Church do you belong to?? Both Pope John Paul II and Pope Benedict XVI have stressed the interreligious dialog is good and in keeping with Church teaching.
    “When they take people away from the Eucharist…”
    I challenge you to stand before the Holy Father himself and try to justify that argument.

  12. avatar Dr. K says:

    I challenge you to stand before the Holy Father himself and try to justify that argument.

    I’d rejoice at the opportunity.

  13. avatar Anonymous says:

    I’ll bet you would–

  14. avatar Anonymous says:

    And, Dr K, you still didn’t explain how your statement regarding Eucharist, and all that that implies, is in keeping with the teachings of Pope John Paul II ( soon to be Blessed) and Pope Benedict XVI.

  15. avatar Dr. K says:

    I don’t support apathy or indifferentism. We are the one, truth Catholic faith. Protestant denominations are in error one way or the other, and we need to work to bring them back to the truth. We do not need to compromise our beliefs, but rather to assist these people in understanding them better. This is true ecumenism. False ecumenism would be what you seem to support. That is, the idea that it doesn’t matter what faith you belong to because we all believe in the same God. It does matter. It’s not right for us to sit by and watch Protestant communities like Lakeshore steal our sheep away from the Church and the Holy Eucharist because we are too afraid to do anything! This is not what the Popes or Council fathers had in mind. We need to continue to be fervent in our defense of the Church. We need to reach out to lost sheep and stop our faithful from turning to false religions.

  16. avatar Scott says:

    Touche, Dr. K!!

  17. avatar Abaccio says:

    A baptized person who does not believe all the teachings of the Church is called a heretic. By definition, protestants do not believe all the teachings of the Church. Ergo, all baptized protestants are heretics. Now, many of them are material heretics, but the operative word is still heretic. If our goal is the salvation of souls (and this MUST be our goal), we must work and pray for the conversion of heretics and apostates.

  18. avatar Persis says:

    @ Abaccio-
    I am not really sure if the Church believes what you have stated. Those who split from the Church initially (Luther, Henry VIII) were heretics. Those who are Protestant now are not, just mis-guided. At least that is my understanding. If I am wrong, please correct me.

    You also state that “our goal is the salvation of souls, we must work and pray for the coversion of heretics and apostates”. Could this not be what the Bishop is doing by participating in what is considered a traditional Catholic devotion, with those who may not be Catholic?

    And finally, (and I am NOT defending the Bishop, just merely asking a question), why would anyone want to participate in something as meaningful and spiritual as the Stations of the Cross on Good Friday with a bunch of people who have no respect for him?

  19. avatar Anonymous says:

    Abaccio,
    Your misinformation is Medeival at best, damaging at worst. Why don’t you read some of the writings of Pope John Paul II on this subject. You would be very enlightened.

  20. avatar Anonymous says:

    Guess what, Dr. K..Human beings are not being stolen by Lakeshore. Unless they are forcibly taken or brainwashed, they have the freedom of will to make that decision.

  21. avatar Jim says:

    Jim M. here: Persis, Bishop Clark has been invited to participate in the Stations of the Cross on Good Friday every year! Having refused this request for over twenty years, how could you accuse people of having no respect for him, when he himself chooses not to join us? Should we respect the yearly rejection of the invitation?

  22. avatar Abaccio says:

    Persis, Enlightened/Pompous Anon 7:02

    Hence my clarification of “material” heretics.

    The Catechism of the Catholic Church states,

    2089 Incredulity is the neglect of revealed truth or the willful refusal to assent to it. “Heresy is the obstinate post-baptismal denial of some truth which must be believed with divine and catholic faith, or it is likewise an obstinate doubt concerning the same; apostasy is the total repudiation of the Christian faith; schism is the refusal of submission to the Roman Pontiff or of communion with the members of the Church subject to him.”

    The Church’s moral theology has always distinguished between objective or material sin and formal sin. The person who holds something contrary to the Catholic faith is materially a heretic, but is not guilty of formal heresy unless they willingly embrace what they know to be contrary to revealed truth.

    Hence, all adult Protestant Christians are in a state of material heresy. These Christians adhere to various Protestant heresies condemned by the Council of Trent or condemned by the Church in other ways, at other times. They obstinately doubt, or obstinately reject, important teachings on faith or morals or salvation that are required beliefs of the Catholic Christian Faith.

  23. avatar Dr. K says:

    Guess what, Dr. K..Human beings are not being stolen by Lakeshore. Unless they are forcibly taken or brainwashed, they have the freedom of will to make that decision.

    They are being led astray by false shepherds.

  24. avatar A Catholic says:

    Persis- First, in regard to the pro-life stations of the cross, you make quite an assumption when you say concerning the bishop, “why would anyone want to participate in something as meaningful and spiritual as the Stations of the Cross with a bunch of people who have no respect for him?” Those who are involved in this include a wide range of Catholics from the DOR who probably have varying opinions of the bishop. Certainly, many may be frustrated by the little that is done in the DOR to advance pro-life, but I wouldn’t call this group a tough crowd.

    Secondly, it shouldn’t matter anyways- the bishop should just do what is right. Participating at least once over a two-decade period of time would be the right thing to do, and would show that he appreciates the importance of the issue.

  25. avatar Dr. K says:

    Is Bishop Clark the bishop of St. Mary downtown or is he the bishop of the Diocese of Rochester? I think it would be wonderful to have Bishop Clark come to the pro-life Stations and pray with his flock. Instead of avoiding the pro-life Stations, the Latin Mass community, and Our Lady of Victory, why doesn’t he visit these groups and reach out to those who may have been hurt in the past? What a gesture that would be!

  26. avatar Anonymous says:

    Abaccio: “All adult Protestant Christians are in the state of Material Heresy?” Wow. How long do you spend on this kind of thing? The energy that you are expending in your self-appointed role of “explainer” of the law is mind-boggling. Maybe you need to get your nose out of the catechism and out of other people’s business, and spend that time reaching out in charity to those who are in need of the healing presence of the Lord.If anyone read this blog (and many of your posts) and knew nothing about our Catholic tradition, they would find a whole lot of venom and not much faithfulness to the Gospel message of Jesus–or the unifying outreach of Pope John Paul II.

  27. avatar Abaccio says:

    Anon the last,

    That comment took about…5 minutes? It’s quite easy to get these things out quickly when you know the teaching of the Church. This is a HUGE problem in the Church today, and points to the futility of these “ecumenical” endeavors in many instances. Unless they are rooted firmly in the truth, they serve absolutely no purpose. If, instead, people called a spade a spade (For instance: if you are a heretic, you are at risk of eternal damnation) we might actually start to see some degree of unity. As long as everyone is afraid of being un-PC, nothing gets done. Heresy has no rights. We are NOT called to let everyone remain in ignorance, but to go forth and preach the truth, the whole truth of the Catholic faith.

    When our Lord offered a challenging teaching (unless you eat of the flesh of the son of man…my flesh is meat indeed…) Jn 6: 67-68, “After this many of his disciples went back; and walked no more with him. [68] Then Jesus said to the twelve: Will you also go away?”

    He didn’t go running after those who refused to believe the truth, telling them “oh, no, you don’t understand, i meant it as a symbol!” He didn’t go back and say, it’s okay, I’d rather you follow me than believe the truth. He turned to the twelve, and asked if they were going to leave as well. Tell me, was our Lord being…”unfaithful to the Gospel?” Did he lack charity and a unifying outreach?

  28. avatar Dr. K says:

    “Maybe you need to get your nose out of the catechism and out of other people’s business, and spend that time reaching out in charity to those who are in need of the healing presence of the Lord.If anyone read this blog (and many of your posts) and knew nothing about our Catholic tradition, they would find a whole lot of venom and not much faithfulness to the Gospel message of Jesus–or the unifying outreach of Pope John Paul II.”

    John the Baptist:

    “You brood of vipers! Who warned you to flee from the coming wrath?”

    “”It is not lawful for you to have her.” – To Herod

    Christ:

    “Whoever will not receive you or listen to your words–go outside that house or town and shake the dust from your feet. Amen, I say to you, it will be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrah on the day of judgment than for that town”

    “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees”

    “Woe to you, blind guides”

    “Blind fools”

    “You blind ones”

    “You serpents, you brood of vipers, how can you flee from the judgment of Gehenna?”

    If only St. John the Baptist and Christ were more charitable and used less venom, right?

  29. avatar Anonymous says:

    But look at whom Jesus was directing His “venom”?? People such as yourselves– Pharisees for whom the law was greater than the human beings it was supposed to protect. The Pharisees also had the law memorized–word for word.Jesus was telling them over and over that the Law was written for humankind, humans were not made for the Law.
    As far as John the Baptist is concerned, he was of the Prophetic class and lived as an Essene for many years. This is what they did. They called for repentence. Herod’s problem was not so much his irregular marriage ( married to his brother’s wife), but his utter hypocrisy-using the Law for his own advantage, ordering violent acts against his own people…The “brood of vipers” was also directed at the Pharisees. Your own kind, in other words.
    The admonition against the towns which did not receive the 72 disciples was intended to help the disciples walk away rather than seek revenge. What Jesus was saying was: it is not our place ( your place) to call down wrath, but rather God’s.
    What do you think Luke 6: 37-42 is all about. Judging is God’s job, not ours.
    And again, I reiterate, how does Abaccio’s stand square with the teachings of our late pope? or doesn’t that matter?

  30. avatar Abaccio says:

    John Paul II promulgated the Catechism of the Catholic Church. Therefore, I would say it “stands square with the teachings of our late pope.”

  31. avatar Dr. K says:

    They called for repentence. Herod’s problem was not so much his irregular marriage ( married to his brother’s wife), but his utter hypocrisy-using the Law for his own advantage, ordering violent acts against his own people

    The Bible is quite specific about what issue John the Baptist had with Herod that lead to his demise.

    People such as yourselves

    Your own kind, in other words.

    it is not our place ( your place) to call down wrath

    Do that one more time and you will never post here again.

    Expecting a little decency in the Mass is hardly the same as laying an oppressive burden on people. Wanting the faith taught accurately does not contradict the teachings of Christ. Nobody here is calling down wrath of God upon our fellow man.

  32. avatar Anonymous says:

    Is Bishop Clark posting on this site under the guise of anonymous?

  33. avatar Anonymous says:

    yes. you found me out.

  34. avatar Ben Anderson says:

    from the D&C (this is the ecumenical one):
    http://www.democratandchronicle.com/article/20110423/NEWS01/104230329/Faithful-walk-Stations-Cross-city?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|News

    “more than 150 people walking side by side in a procession that extended for 100 yards on the sidewalk along Genesee Street.”

  35. avatar Choir says:

    I find it odd that Bishop Clark will participate in the Stations of the Cross in the Bulls Head neighborhood, but he will close the Catholic churches in that exact same area. Sure there are the diocesan-run social agencies such as DePaul, but not a Catholic church to be found. The closest Catholic church would be St. Monica’s at the far upper end of Genesee St. and that’s not even close to Bulls Head.

    Maybe Bishop Clark figures that these children of God in the Bulls Head area have no need of the Catholic faith.

  36. avatar Eliza10 says:

    I was at the Stations of the Cross for Life, with a LOT of other people. It was crowded, but I am not good at estimating crowds, so I can’t put a number on it (plus I was in the middle of things, and didn’t have the full view. We estimated 4 across on the sidewalk, rather than two by two like the ecumenical one the newspaper and our bishop favored, so I can’t estimate how long our “thicker” line of people was [the paper gave their favored walk an estimated length].

    Was anyone else there? Does anyone else have an estimate of attendees?

    We had a biting wind yesterday, a little pain to offer up on Good Friday, along with, for me, the pain of the nearby walkie talkie blaring, at top volume, the chant – distortedly and not beautifully, effectively completely drowning out the voices of the faithful right around me. [The facilitators had expressed concern there might be “dead zones” in the line, with some people not being able to follow along, so I guess they overcompensated. Also the singing leader sang her part AND ours with a LOUD determination, certainly in effort that everyone got to hear, but this, over the walkie talkie, further distorts and blares].

    In spite of these wonderful opportunities to offer things up, there was, yet, a deep reverence in the united quiet and focus of all these people, a sense of holiness, and for me, a feeling that there was no more right place to be on this Good Friday. We processed slowly from McQuaid down Clinton past Tops and past offices, and stopped on the sidewalk in front of the Dr. Wortman’s abortion clinic, where we finished the Stations and said a few prayers before returning. The clinic sits below grade, and Wortman has been growing a thick stand of pines in front, between the sidewalk where we stood and his large, nicely paved lot in from of his clinic, in order to block from the clinic the view of the expected protesters. As I recalled from a previous Walk for Life, Wortman’s latest abortuary is a very lovely building – clearly no expense was spared in making it invitingly beautiful, with the peaceful appearance, outside, of a fine country estate. How looks can deceive. Yes, abortions are a high-profit, low-accountability business…

    I loved the presence of all the faithful priests in their robes leading the faithful. What a comfort it gave me to see that there are priests like this here in the DOR. I just wanted to hug them! They are a faithful remnant, it seemed to me. But without a visible shepherd! Where was Bishop Clark, our leader, in his robes, and with his shepherd’s crook? Why wasn’t he with his flock, quietly and reverently leading them, and visibly representing our Church’s brave and stalwart stand for Life? Oh, he was with some other flock… How sad. And sadder, still – how expected.

  37. avatar Eliza10 says:

    Anonymous 12:15, you are certainly very well-versed in the confused DOR theology! You must be a student of St. Bernard’s! Your writing has that distinct Pharisaic stamp. For example:

    “People such as yourselves– Pharisees…” In typical narcissist style, you call us what you are. The DOR usses it’s pulpit to name-call anyone not on thier agenda, and “pharisee” is a typical name they call. But this doesn’t stand up to logic.

    Your “you people”, along with “your own kind” of your comment and are the signature divisive/blaming language of the DOR, used routinely by our bishop and his ilk, effectively and systematically, to divide and cripple and thin out our diocese.

    But the DOR theology makes no sense. When someone cites canon law to one of you, you are compare Canon Law to the manmade laws of the Pharisees. But the laws of our Holy Chruch are inspired and protected by the Holy Spirit, and there is no comparison to the manmade Pharisees’ bean-counting and self-serving laws which Jesus condemned.

    You are wrong that Jesus was unconcerned with Herod’s immoral marriage and lustful lifestyle. But that is DOR theology you spout! What does God care about mortal sins of the flesh! It is nothing, so you say! But Jesus was so offended he wouldn’t even speak in the presence of Herod. Any Sainted Catholic theologian will tell you that sins of the flesh matter a great deal.

    Yes, it is Clark and his elite DOR leadership that are the Pharisees. They do things their own way and they are immune and unaccountable to anyone, particularly the people they are called to serve, because they see themselves as the special elite. The little people don’t understand their “higher” ways, and are just not important. They can be ignored – or publicly derided. Whatever it takes! Because the ends justifies the means! Its the DOR way.

    It is the DOR leadershipe that is characteristically arrogant and entitled – just like the Pharisees. All of us “common folk” can see that. The Pharisees did not fool the common people of their day, and you aren’t fooling us.

  38. avatar Anonymous says:

    Eliza 10, where have you been? That’s such old news. Anon 12:15 has obviously moved on. You should, too.
    May the hope and grace of Easter be with you. It is a beautiful season to let go of the petty angers and turn our attention to the real issues: thousands of unborn babies are killed each day through abortions; convicted criminals await death at the hands of the state, thereby preventing God’s redemptive love from ever reaching them; the elderly who have dementia, or are too ill to fight back are being abused each day at the hands of “family members” or unscrupulous “health care” workers; divorce is breaking up families and children are suffering at the hands of irresponsible parents; everyday more and more people are being diagnosed with incurable diseases…Let us take these human beings to our hearts, pray for them and offer up our frustrations and pain to the Risen Lord. We can all try our best to right the wrongs of the DOR, but unless we truly put our trust in God all is in vain.
    Let us continue to pray for the respect for life in all its forms; let us continue to offer up our crosses for the good of our parishes and diocese; let us live as positively as we can in the Light of the Lord..and may we always remember that at the end of the Crucifixion, there is an empty tomb.


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