It pains me greatly to reveal so much to you, dear readers. I pray that the things here aren’t true – if anyone would care to verify this account, please do not hesitate to do so. We wouldn’t want to stray into unintentional slander. We do not spread rumors at CF – if we are wrong, or if you have evidence either way (pictures, video, audio, bulletin inserts, etc.), please email us at cleansingfire@live.com.
Dear Lady of Sorrows, pray for us.
At St. Mary’s children’s Mass the kids are called up to the altar (not just into the sanctuary). They stand leaning on and over the altar and are instructed by Fr. Bill Donnelly to imitate the priestly gestures he makes. They touch the sacred vessels, stand with their elbows resting on the altar, recite the Eucharistic prayers, etc.
St.Mary’s is in MUCH worse shape even than St.Anne’s. I strongly encourage you to attend both Sunday Masses as well as the Saturday Mass at 4:00 (which is perhaps the worst). You quite simply won’t believe the sorts of things that go on, including prayers to pagan gods (the Great Spirit), open attacks on the Holy Father, desecration of the Real Presence, etc. Remember that many of the parishioners and all of the staff at St.Mary’s believe Bishop Clark to be far too traditional and authoritarian (they use this language). A number of people there openly advocate schism both from Rome and from the diocese–and many of these people serve on parish committees. (The liturgy committee is especially riddled with heresy.)
…The man Anne-Marie replaced was openly gay and delivered homilies. Since taking over she has fired him along with most of the staff, filling the positions with her own people. There is growing resentment towards her except among the massive number of gay parishioners for whom she holds private meetings and get-togethers at the rectory (with a large rainbow flag flying at full mast).
A huge number of parishioners are refugees from Corpus Christi and speak quite openly about their plans to continue at St.Mary’s what they began at Corpus Christi. The staff are complicit in this, including Bill Donnelly.
[Note: There were also comments about personal affairs of Ms. Brogan which we have decided in good taste not to print.]
Above: An image from a liturgy at St. Mary’s downtown
If anyone would be willing, for the sake of the Church and Her Founder, to go to St. Mary’s, to document these heinous abuses with photographs and/or video, I will do my utmost to support you.
If you are a diocesan official reading this, please answer us this: How can you turn blindly from this blatant attack on the Church?
It MAY be possible that His Presence, in the Eucharist, isn't there IF they have altered the words of the Consecration too much.
Or if the intention is not to change the bread and wine into the actual Body and Blood of the Lord according Church dogma (even if the words are correct). The intention must be there even if the belief is not.
Given the celebrant's instruction to children (St. Anne's children's Mass, 4pm Christmas Eve 2009)concerning the consecration of the elements I'm not sure the Sacrament is present on the altar at St. Anne's. Probably not when that priest is the celebrant.
My information is from someone who was there. I was not. This person mentioned that father went out of his way to describe the whole action as symbolic and to avoid suggesting the Real Presence to the children.
FATHER HART, ARE YOU LISTENING?
Run for your life!!
You know… I wonder if their Masses are even valid, to be honest. This is nuts. Wasn't one of the issues that got Callan into trouble that he invited everyone to recite the Eucharistic prayer?
Nooooo! Not another church!
The Eucharistic Prayer is a presidential prayer reserved for the priest presider. No one, under any circumstance, is to join in reciting this prayer. Calling children around the altar and to touch the vessels is contributing to a sacrilegious environment.
Anonymous 12:01, I suspect that they diocese is listening. I just don't know that they care.
I had to go to Sat. afternoon mass one weekend a few years ago when I was horribly busy on Sunday. The church I go to (Blessed Sacrament) does not offer a Saturday mass anymore, so I went off to find a church near me that did, and I was happy to see that I could go to St. Mary's; I always liked the setting of it, downtown, with a park across the street. So I went.
Ouch.
I honestly thought that I had accidentally wondered into an Anglican church or something… I managed to forget most of the specifics, thank God. I remember the Gloria was sung to "Ode to Joy". The communion bread was not the typical wafer found in most every other church. It was more like an un-stale crouton.
I wish that I had had the strength/wherewithal/whatever to have walked out.
dbb, was the Communion bread leavened or unleavened? It is illicit to use anything other than unleavened wheat bread in the Latin rite.
Redemptionis Sacramentum #48:
"The bread used in the celebration of the Most Holy Eucharistic Sacrifice must be unleavened, purely of wheat, and recently made so that there is no danger of decomposition.[123] It follows therefore that bread made from another substance, even if it is grain, or if it is mixed with another substance different from wheat to such an extent that it would not commonly be considered wheat bread, does not constitute valid matter for confecting the Sacrifice and the Eucharistic Sacrament.[124] It is a grave abuse to introduce other substances, such as fruit or sugar or honey, into the bread for confecting the Eucharist. Hosts should obviously be made by those who are not only distinguished by their integrity, but also skilled in making them and furnished with suitable tools."
I am aware that St. Mary's makes their own bread for Communion. This makes me wonder if the following in the above passage is being violated: "Hosts should obviously be made by those who are not only distinguished by their integrity, but also skilled in making them and furnished with suitable tools."
~Dr. K
I'm not sure. It may have been leavened- it was 3 or 4 years ago, and like I said, I have forgotten most of the specifics. I would think about going there tomorrow to see, but I am out of the area this weekend.